Marlon Starling vs Terry Norris

At 147, Starling could conceivably have knocked out Terry.

 

You think he was a great fighter?!? :yikes

 

Derrick Kelly - Norris. Has anyone seen this because I dont know the details of the loss. If it was early in his career I can excuse the loss. Many of the greats like Norris have been thru this; Monzon, Galindez, Dempsey, Greb, Tony Sibson, Benny Leonard. The list is endless.

I seriously doubt that Terry was prime time when he took that early loss and in fact you can hear this mentioned by boxing scholar Jim Lampley before the start of the Taylor fight. Otherwise, how could Norris have defeated Taylor unless he had dramatically improved over the years? How could Norris have toppled legends Ray Leonard, Mugabi, and Curry with ridiculous ease? Improvement, that's how.

Now let's look at the case of Marlon Starling in prime time, also loser to Pedro Villela. How in the world can anyone say Starling is great? I mean the guy was a habitual loser! Just the fact that he was behind on points to Bumphus tells you how pathetic and anemic he was on offense. This is the man they say would beat a destroyer like Cuevas? Cuevas would ANNIHILATE this bum!!!

And to say he could somehow knockout Norris when his two time conqueror, Don Curry is just plain fantasy.

 

I never said he was a great fighter. He could have been great, but he let some fights slip away that he should have won.

 

Styles make fights, and I think Starling's style would have been difficult for Terry to solve.

 

So based on that, you think he's somehow going to beat on Cuevas?

 

Cuevas wasn't a great fighter. The only thing he had was great power. Starling could have nullified Pipino's power and made him pay in return.

 

Cuevas also did not have a granite chin.

 

The main thing is that Starling was just the better fighter overall. He would have made Cuevas look silly.

 

Norris got kayoed by a faded Simon Brown, a man that Starling beat in his prime.

 

You said it-styles make fights. Brown was an all offense fighter. Starling was an all defense fighter. If they had rankings for offense for fighters as they do in football, Starling would have one of the worst numbers.

So, how is Starling going to manage this win with an anemic offense? He cant counter Norris because Terry is the guy with the speed. Starling didnt have much in the way of mobility. What does that tell you? I'm sorry to tell you this mate, but Moochie doesnt stand in this contest.

let's talk about great fighters and what makes them great. What do you think makes starling great? Is it the way he holds his gloves up high and lets the other guy pound them? Is it the way he sometimes stomps his foot on the canvas? What else was there? Honestly, I find nothing inspirational about him.

When CBS built up his fight with Curry in 82, I struggled just to get thru the finish of the fight. All that buildup for nothing. I could understand the weak performance from Curry-he was fighting with the flu but what's Starling's excuse? he still lost! I concluded this guy Starling is nothing but a bust. No offense, but he sucks!

How many defenses did he make on his title? Cuevas made ten over a time span of four years. Starling? Just a couple because he was destined to be a cheese champ. Could Starling have ever been champion in an era where there was just one champion? Not in Leonard's era, nor Napoles', Cokes', etc,,,

Cuevas on the other hand dominated. When has Starling ever dominated? he didnt even dominate Bumphus. So it's not enough to say "He had the style to beat this guy or that guy" when you got no offense going even if he is technically okay (more or less)

Sure, lots of guys including his challengers were better all around fighters than Cuevas but after getting their heads and ribs beat on for a few rounds, skill and ability didn't get the job done and bring them the title. Power and ferocity did.

Harold Weston: Loser after 9 rounds and came away with broken ribs.

Billy Backus, former world champion: Defeated in 1 round and came out with broken ribs and eye socket.

Pete Ranzany: thorougly trashed after two one sided rounds

Angel Espada: 2 rounds, 11 rounds, 9 rounds-numerous contusions, bruises and lumps around the eye, broken ribs, you name it.

Cuevas was a destroyer. Starling is a lifeless defensive fighter, a cutie with an anemic offense and nothing more.

 

Boy! You really don't like Starling, do you? I thought beat Curry in the first fight, but the judges gave Donald the fight.

 

He didnt come close to winning that fight. because of his incompetence and ineptitude he couldnt handle a boy fighting with the flu. "Judges gave Curry the fight" Give me a break.