Hey guys. I've just watched Marlon Starling's fight with Lloyd Honeyghan and was reasonably impressed with what I saw. Starling obviously has a very good defence, a high guard, and he seems to pick his shots very well. Has a quick right hand when he throws it with conviction, but his jab seems to act more of a measuring tool than anything else. I felt he won practically every round with the exception of the third. Good performance. This came right after his stunning loss to Molinaires, where he was seen to be struck after the bell. He was knocked out cold, and almost shamefully, he was interviewed afterwards, not having a clue what had happened or where he was. I think he deserves a lot of credit for coming back from a loss like that, which would later be changed to a NC and rightfully so. What are the classics opinions on Marlon Starling as a fighter. He beat the likes of Breland, Honeyghan, Simon Brown, etc and had two very close fights with a peak Donald Curry, whilst also giving Nunn a hard fight at the tail end of his career. Was he a nearly man? An underachiever? Or does he not recieve the recognition he deserves? How would he fair in today's division? Marlon Starling would have been a force to be reckoned with if he had some power at 147lb.
I remember that fight fairly well, for not having seen it in 20 years, and I agree. Lloyd Honeyghan was still a very formidable opponent at the time, and a lot of people had doubts about Starling beating him.. Marlon as you say, utilized a peak "O" boo style defense that was a signature part of his style, and was quite often very effective. He didn't posses much in the way of power, but his accuracy was better than most. At times, I thought Starling's workrate could have been a little bit better as he periodically tended to get lazy . He also loved to clown a bit, and if memory serves, even stuck is tounge out at Honeyghan once or twice in that match... Nevertheless, I have always considered the welterweight seen of the 1980's to be one of the very best and most competitive eras in boxing. Men like Marlon Starling, Lloyd Honeghan, Simon Brown, Mark Breland, Donald Curry, etc.. Have seemingly been forgotten as time roles on. My guess is that those men just had the misfortune of coming along immediately after Ray Leonard, Roberto Duran and Thomas Hearns had vacated the division.. Big shoes to fill in other words.....
Thanks for the insight. You would be correct. Starling began to clown the moment he established his domination over Honeyghan, which really began around the 5th and 6th round, even if I only ever gave Honeyghan one round (third). That was more due to Starling not throwing much, than any effectiveness from Lloyd, to be honest. I haven't seen the Curry fights, but perhaps had Starling been giving the verdict in one of them, his career could have been a bit different?
I haven't seen the Curry fights either. A win over a streaking Donald Curry anytime between 1983 to 1986 would have looked good on just about anyone's resume frankly.. As for how it may have changed the course of Starling's career, well its very difficult to say. You had a ton of talent in that division with top fighters beating on each other all the time..
Today I think Starling would be a handful for anyone. Only Mosley would I give a very good chance of beating him, but then again Mosley struggled to land much on Winky (albeit at the higher weight) so Starling's good defence would probably see him through again. A seriously underrated fighter IMO. He made Honeyghan look awful, although most say Honeyghan came in with the wrong gameplan, I feel he was well established into his 'Curry style' at the time of this fight.
Honeyghan changed his plan about half way through, trying to outbox Marlon. That wasn't going to happen. I've not seen enough of Honeyghan to make an accurate observation, but Marlon's high guard rendered Honeyghan's work rate void when those two fought. He started off throwing 100+ a round, but was landing about 15 shots at best. It wasn't getting the job done.
Starling would certainly be a force to be reckoned with in almost any era.. Let's not sell today's welters short though. The division is once again flooded with talent, and should make for interesting things to come..
That's what I'm saying. Starling MADE Honeyghan look clueless, and of course DID render him clueless. That's how good he was.
Great performance by Starling but Honeyghan had pretty much discarded his boxing skills at that point in his career and was trying to blow his opponents out, early wins over Bumphus, Hatcher and Vaca where he won by basically walking through his opponenet had given him an inflated opinion of his power IMHO. In a lot of interviews with Honeyghan around that time see him mentioning wanting to be the welterweight Tyson. I think stylewise Starling was always going to give Honey trouble but the decent boxing that had got Honeyghan his title shot would have enabled him to fare better than the wild swinging 1989 version did.
I think he was a top Welter, a throwback if you like. Very underrated, for me he gives just about any welter in history a good argument. The Curry fights were very close and Curry looked like a future ATG at the time. I think as well that Mark Breland was a better fighter than people give him credit for. The problem being in his case the expectations that were put on him. Both of these followed the Leonard, Hearns, Duran era and that is another reason they're overlooked.
No. I'm not impressed by Starliing. Frankly, I'm not impressed by any of your fighters. He's mediocre.
My favorite fighters consist of Barrera, Nunn, Ali, Benitez, Arguello, Marquez, Mijares, Bowe, Leonard, Zarate, etc. Your not impressed by any of them?
Dont listen to him. Starling was a helluva fighter! And I like your avatar. Benitez is one of my all time favs also.