Marquez beats Pacquiao TWICE !

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  1. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    DIVAC already moved on but some of his co-JMM fans hasn't!
     
  2. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    GOOD POINT!

    Why are some of the JMM fans are still crying that JMM III should happen if they are REALLY CONVINCED that JMM won the two fights!?!

    It does not make sense?! In other words, THEY CLAIM JMM won but deep inside they want REVENGE for JMM's loss!

    Here's another DOSE of REALITY!

    JMM needs PACMAN more than PACMAN needs JMM!!!!!:hi:
     
  3. Sting

    Sting Akagami no Shanks Full Member

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    You posted all those experts like it proves something? Tell me who did those experts pick when DLH-Pac fought? Who did they pick when B-Hop whooped Pavlik? Who did they pick when Mijares got destroyed?

    Those experts proves NOTHING. I don't care if he works on ESPN, or any other big time magazine. Those experts are just like us. Prone to mistakes, miscalculations and misunderstandings.
     
  4. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    The only "expert" i cared about is Teddy "the oracle" Atlas!

    he predicted a pac victory over oscar... :D
     
  5. dhenzrae

    dhenzrae A Proud Noypi Full Member

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    just move on jmm fans
     
  6. canuckpunch

    canuckpunch Member Full Member

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    JMM should fight Rustico Torrecampo instead. When JMM beats him, he can tell the whole world he beat the man who knockdown Pacman. Maybe the JMM fans will finally shut up.
     
  7. Carlos Primera

    Carlos Primera Boxing Addict Full Member

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    agenda driven threads like this are why pacmaniacs get hostile.
     
  8. 41fever

    41fever Boxing Addict Full Member

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    gett off the glass pipe brother:good
     
  9. Spitfire7

    Spitfire7 Gadfly Full Member

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    WARNING: This thread is possibly a laughable and failed attempt to gain vicarious credit for JMM for what the Pacman has accomplished. Read with Kleenex handy.
     
  10. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    JMM is gay!

    there thread saved!
     
  11. Monstar

    Monstar The Future.. Full Member

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    well i think he Dominated Pac the 1st fight, i had him up by about 5-6 rounds

    but the 2nd fight i had Pac up by 1 round.........so lets just drop this "Marquez was robbed stuff" the 2nd fight was very very close, who ever got the decision deserves respect from the fans, it was a great fight and a tough fight for both fighter, they're both each others krypotonite, Pac just happened to get 2 of the judges votes.....if you ask 100 non-bias fans 50 would probably say Pac won, and 50 would probably say Juan won

    but if ya'll wanna talk about a real robbery.....have you seen Juan Manuel Marquez-Chris John??, now that **** is a highway crime, he got jobbed.....he pretty much dominated Chris John, and on top of that, he probably would of knocked him out had the referee not interfered for no reason, that was the biggest hometown gift i've seen in a while

    they should rematch in Mexico or America, so Marquez can batter his ass again without the hometown ref, and the bias ass hometown judges
     
  12. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    WTF are you babbling on about here ?


    17 out of the 25 'dissenting' scorers you cite had it a one point fight. How much closer can it get ???




    Excluding the KnockDowns ?


    Excluding the stoppage, Vitali was beating Lennox !

    Excluding the KO, Hearns was beating Leonard !

    Excluding getting knocked 15 or 20 feet out of the Ring, Liakaovich was beating Briggs handily !



    In their first fight, IF the three KD rule had been in effect as it was for most of the preceeding thirty years, the fight would have been over in the first round. And then there would never have BEEN a second fight !


    Furthermore, if judge Burt Clements had not ****ed up (as he himself admitted later) in the first fight, and scored the three KDs as a 10-6 round, Pac would have won the first fight and again, there would have been no second fight.



    And in the second fight itself, the bout was very close. I scored it for Pac by a point. A draw would have suited me fine. And I wouldn't have whined if JMM had been awarded a close decision.

    Lewis-Holyfield 1 was a robbery.

    Oscar-Tito was a robbery.



    This was a close fight that could have gone either way.


    JMM would have done well to listen to what big George used to say: Don't leave it with the judges if you want to be sure.



    At a minimum, he didn't help his case by more visits to the canvas in a close fight.


    Get over it !
     
  13. Carlos Primera

    Carlos Primera Boxing Addict Full Member

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    thread closed
     
  14. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    At the time PAC wasn't the #1 P4P Champ and he wasn't before the rematch with JMM either. Both PAC and JMM were in the P4P rankings and PAC won BOTH times.

    TO point out how well JMM boxed after being floored 3 times in the 1st round and say "Well.....JMM WOULD HAVE won IF" is just bull**** and a way to give an excuse to a fighter that doesn't need an excuse.

    We could do "What ifs"all day....What if Kelly Pav wasn't sick or had an elbow injury.....I bet he would have beaten old Bhop

    What if Bhop threw more punches in his fight with JOe....I bet Bhop would have won!:patsch Stick to what's real....what's real is JMM is 1-0-1 with PAC but if you REALL want to get technical it's 2-0 for PAC since the first fight did have 3 KD's and a judge did score the 1st round incorrectly giving JMM a gift DRAW. Real Talk!:good
     
  15. DINAMITA

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    Outboxed for 18 of 24 rounds? Sober up. They were two of the closest fights of recent years, anything other than a 1-point margin of victory either way is way off IMO.

    If you took away the KD's? :lol: Why the **** would anyone ever do that? What is the point of that?? Pac floored JMM 4 times, JMM couldn't manage once - surely that's a strike to Pac not against him??? If you took away all the times Marquez punched Pacquiao, Pac would have won a landslide. :nut