even as a pac fan, i could not say that pac clearly won against jmm in the rematch. but the holding of jmm in the ropes that could result in another kd is always conveniently forgotten by those who argue of a jmm win. if this was counted, i doubt that any of the so called "boxing community experts" will doubt a pac win.
you are ok with other threads and it seems this pac thing drags your good name down the sink. i respect your opinion but seems it is starting to turn the mood off especially if you think that "conspiracy theory". BTW, jmm was handled by bob arum and pac was being handled by murad muhamad, if my memory serves me correct. that being said, your theory is null and void. bob has more connections than murad and pac was just starting off. get the logic.
yup. i just felt bad for the missed opportunities like the hamed fight. what if they have fought? could luisito beaten hamed earlier than mab or could he had been one of hamed's collections? just one of those fights that i wish that should have happened.
Yes, it does mean something. We are the ones that talk about the sport. That is why you are in here trying to refute what a large portion of the boxing community thinks. We had judges in every big fight. It does not mean they are correct because they are called a "judge". It's open to interpretation.
Pacquiao won both imo. Dumb threadstarter doesn't even mention the scoring error in the first fight or the blown kd call in the 2nd fight.
Tell Marquez to stand on his damn feer and no one would have to *****. you can't fail to drop your opponet at all in two fights and then have your ass touch canvass 4 times in 2 fights and think you won both fights. C'mon, lets be real here. It was close, Pac stayed on his feet and was hurt less than JMM for the fact that he never fell down. Not once and Marquez, I repeat FOUR times. Stay on your DAMN FEET!
Funny how you have "Dominated everything after that!". Sorry, but what counts is the first fight was a bull**** draw because one judge ADMITTED she made a mistake by scoring the first round 10-7 instead of 10-6 for Pacquiao and the rematch Pacquiao won. THAT'S what counts, if Marquez wants it then he came move up and I'm sure just like Pac gave him two fights he will give him a third for you guys to cry "robbery" about because Pac didn't score the KO as he did to the rest of the Mexican legends. :good
4 knockdowns cost him 2 fights ... I don't think that he can claim that he won anything given that he kissed the canvas that many times. I think that Marquez won the first fight and had an arguement for the second, but those knockdowns at crucial points of the fight have clouded many fans judgement. 3 knockdowns in the first round ... no one in their right mind could've noticed the significance of the comeback over the next 11 rounds ... and even so that large of a deficite, Pac only had to win 1 or 2 rounds to make it a draw. The second fight was Marquez, but it seemed like in the latter rounds he ran out of gas ... he was knocked down in the championship rounds and that often clouds the judgement of the judges from that point on. I give all the respect to JMM but he's alright with the two L's to Pacquiao, especially given the run that Pacquiao's on right now. I'm starting to wonder if JMM is taking that DLH approach after he had lost to Trinidad ... don't follow this man, just continue on with your career.
Good stats but officially.... it's a draw and a loss for JMM vs Pac and that's what really count!:good