Marquez Defeating Pacquiao DOES NOT Indicate Pac Loses to Floyd- A Technical Summary

The analysis assumed Mayweather is not able to apply lateral movement.
It may be true that moving forward/backward is his preferential style but
he is perfect in adapting to opponent so if he needs it he will apply
the lateral movement with perfection.

The other observation is that Marquez was able to use his lateral movement
to fight efficiently in a close distance. Sorry but Floyd will not be able to do
that because (as somebody enlightened before) Marquez small size was a key.

Floyd is too big comparing to PAC to have efficient offense in a close
distance so even if Floyd will be able to dodge PAC with lateral movement he will
not able able to use it for counter-punching as efficiently as Marquez did.

So even if PAC score nothing with his aggression he will look better from
the point of the one who is initiating the action and steal some rounds.
The thread starter have then a valid point ...

Comparing Hatton and PAC in terms of speed, movement and chin is not good.
While Marquez scored plenty of clean shots he was stunning PAC a bit sometimes,
but that had almost zero effect at the end .... so I doubt Floyd will be able to
stop PAC same as he stooped Hatton.

 

Feint, hit, and clinch for Floyd.

well, the thing is Floyd knows that trick where you step onto the southpaw's lead foot to limit their mobility and restrict their turning. He did it early in the Zab Judah fight. Juan also successfully used this trick on emmanuel.

Floyd can use his footwork and feints to force opponents to come at him from a straight line. Then they'll try to attack him head on and get timed by check hooks and lead rights. He did it against Hatton. I think Floyd-emmanuel will actually look closest to FLoyd-Hatton.

emmanuel for the most part is ineffective in clinches, and the awkwardness of southpaws go away in close ranges.

I thought more about the footwork difference in FLoyd and Juan's style. Had Floyd be more lateral with offense Oscar's parrying skills wouldn't have protected him so well against Floyd's potshots.

 

KEEP EM:deal

FLOYD IS A FUKIN MASTER AT PIVOTING THAT BACK FOOT AND TAKING ANGLES HIS OPPONENT JUST TOOK OFF HIM..

I SAID THIS LONG BEFORE THE MARQUEZ FIGHT...FLOYD ALSO HAS LONGER ARMS AND USES "TIMING AND INCHES" BETTER THAN MARQUEZ.

GET THIS $HIT OUT..WHACK A$$ THEORY AS TO "WHY"...ANYONE FROM A BOXING GYM CARE TO COMMENT ON WHY THIS GARBAGE OPINION ABOVE WON'T HAPPEN.:hat

 

I agree with the OP

Pacquiao still has the same chance against floyd, and i still stick by my opinion that mayweather will outclass Manny.

 

Watch any of floyds fight with southpaws, he never keeps his lead foot o n the outside, never gives lateral movement, always stands right in front fo his opponent, or in the pocket. That's the way he fights. He doesn't fight or move like Marquez.

Here's floyd fighting aggressive southpaw:

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Again, not keeping his lead foot outside. Staying right in front of his opponent, flat footed. It works for him, that's how he likes to fight. But it favors Pacquiao.

When floyd goes into a defensive mode he clams up, stays flat footed. Pac will rip him with combinations in those situations. Also when Floyd gets hit he freaks out and covers up, or runs straight back into the ropes, another bad move against Packy.

 

There is an indication, and it is pretty obvious: Marquez went the distance with Mayweather, Pacquiao will get stopped by Mayweather.

Take it to the bank.

 

atsch

BRO IM NOT QUESTIONING WETHER HE "CAN OR CAN'T"....THE FIGHT EXPOSED PACQUIAO BRO...

TAKE IT N SHUT THE FUK UP...FLOYD WOULD HAVE A FIELD DAY WITH PAC'S AMATUER HOOKING TOO:rofl:rofl

QUIT LOOKING AT MAYWEATHER AND JMM STYLE..LOOK AT PAC'Syikes

ITS PAC'S STYLE WHO IS WRONG FOR GUYS LIKE THIS BRO...IVE BEEN SAYIN IT THE ENTIRE TIME...

FLOYD WOULD COUNTER OVER PAC'S SHORT JAB ALL DAY MAN...

FLOYD WOULD ALSO POP PAC IN THE MOUTH AFTER PIVOTING AWAY, WHEN PAC WALKS IN, NOT READY, WITH HIS HANDS DOWN..

FLOYD WOULD BE ABLE TO DROP THAT BACK FOOT ABOUT 90 DEGREES AND LITERALLY "STEAL ANGLES" THAT PAC TRIES TO TAKE OFF HIM..

NOT TO MENTION FLOYDS LONGER REACH:deal

FLOYD KO'S MANNY IN 7...MAYBE 8 ROUNDS....EASY FIGHT AS MANNY EXPOSES HIMSELF AND "RUNS IN" TOO MUCH...FLOYD CAPITALIZES ON THIS EN ROUTE TO KNOCKING PAC OR MAKING THE REF OR CORNER STOP IT FROM GETTING HIT TOO MANY TIMES..

LETS NOT FORGET, FLOYD IS MUCH MORE ACCURATE THAN JMM...

QUIT SAYING "SOUTHPAWS"...THATS A MYTH BRO..TECHNICALLY SPEAKING HE DOES FINE WITH EM...VOID THAT ARGUMENT REAL QUICK:hi:

HOLLA

 

BTW...IN THE ORTIZ FIGHT FLOYD WAS NOT INTERESTED IN GETTING HIS LEFT FOOT ON THE OUTSIDE MAN....

THIS IS ALL NEW TO U BRO BUT I'VE BEEN BOXING FOR A WHILE...

HE WAS ABLE TO SIMPLY CUT OFF THE RING AND PUSH ORTIZ BACK...DIDN'T NEED OUTSIDE POSITION:deal TO ACCOMPLISH HIS GAME PLAN.

 

*******s holding on.....lol

May used lateral movements in the later rounds against odlh n started to unload on Oscar...

N most of his career he danced around fighters...u can't use one or two Floyd fights as a blueprint the guy can fight multiple styles....he can wal u down n beat u inside he can be elusive and dance around u and ko u....he can back up the whole fight and potshot u.........

Watch his styles against corrales.....hatton.....n mosely three completely different styles......PAC can't beat any version of Floyd sorry....roach won't know what to prepare for just like nazism richardson when he swore that Floyd was gonna be on a bicycle the whole fight for fear of being hit...when Floyd came out n walked mosley down it threw the whole game plan out of the water

 

Oh n by *******s I don't mean the ts....good analysis cuz they are different types of counter punchers.....

But it does change the outlook for may vs. PAC cuz may is a far superior counter puncher

 

I have read and re read everything put forward by your thread but simply dont agree.


IMO Pac lost to a 38 year old counter puncher on the weekend. He will be up against a better, faster, stronger, taller, counter puncher who has an even better boxing brain than Marquez does.

I cant even be bothered to go in to great detail, just know that you are wrong.

And if one more person says "Styles make fights" i will scream.

I know some people Bias blinds their vision, but please, if you cant at the least now admit Floyd would be the Clear (and deserving) Fave After the MArquez fight then you dont know boxing.

 

Floyd cant beat Pac,

Pac already showed that you need to do more if youre a "counter puncher" to win against pac

 

Oh, and we all know how Floyd loves his "Blueprints"

You dont think the best adaptive fighter of our era can follow the Marquez "Blueprint", but do it better?

Sorry but Floyd beats pac, I didnt even need the Marquez fight as proof, but it sure did help.

 

I didn't need the Marquez win to tell me Floyd would beat Pac. It was pretty obvious all along.