Marquez Defeating Pacquiao DOES NOT Indicate Pac Loses to Floyd- A Technical Summary

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  1. RobertV77

    RobertV77 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You would need to be ******ed drunk to even begin to understand what guys like that are thinking. It's not worth killing that many brain cells thinking about it.
     
  2. UpperCut2

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    This isn't rocket science. Don't give me the "styles make fights" bs. I'd buy it if the evidence wasn't so compelling. Marquez has won more that 50% of the 36 rounds they've fought. He couldn't even steal 1 out of 12 against FMJR who hadn't fought in over a year. Think about it. Marquez @ 37+ went life or death with the supposed BMOTP and should've been awarded the decision. He made Manny look like an amateur (not the polished boxer of recent bouts). Against FMJR, Manny would start out aggressive until that first "check hook" dots his eye, then the amateur would appear and it's over...:bbb:good
     
  3. RobertV77

    RobertV77 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pacquaio doesn't faint nearly as much as he jumps around like a excited amateur. He certainly has chin and energy going for him and he needs it.
     
  4. UpperCut2

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    Pardon me Sir, but I'd like to introduce you to someone.
    "Boxing_RN this is "BOXING" formerly known as the "sweet science", or the "art of hitting without being hit". Boxing, this is Boxing_RN. :bbb:good
     
  5. RightHandLead17

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    The "Floyd being on the ropes" argument is moot because Floyd has great movement and simple and plain PACQUIAO CANT CUT OFF THE RING PERIOD
     
  6. RightHandLead17

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    & That's apart of my point...Floyd is taller and has better reach than all 3 guys he doesn't need to get into an exchange. Furthermore, Floyd has a much better inside game than Manny and JMM he is very comfortable in the pocket. Another factor is the uppercut that Manny doesnt know how to defend against and Floyd uses it most effectively in the pocket.
     
  7. boxing_RN

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    You're an idiot. Someone was talking about Erik Morales and how he beat Pac using "Marquez's style"...Floyd would never use the same style cuz you know he would never be willing to trade with Pac. So shut the **** up with your dumbass.
     
  8. boxing_RN

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    So you're saying that just because Floyd beat Marquez easily and Marquez beat Pac in a close fight, automatically means Floyd beats Pac? You think Marquez will beat Cotto or Margarito? :patsch
     
  9. bahobilat

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    laughing at people comparing marquez-fmj to marquez-pac.

    in marq-void, the catfight between to ***s, marq the smaller man was forced to go out of his shell and bring the fighter the bigger ****** that is void.

    thereby taking him away from his strongest advantage.

    and we all know 120-107.

    sure void can win against pac, even by a wide UD. but that ****** has to climb up the ring against void first before he wins the fight.
     
  10. Ringnut

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    Great footwork indeed, although from what I understood from Bogotazo post isn't that Floyd is flat footed (although I admit I only read the OP, since I lot of the posts that followed weren't really what you call "discussions"). It was more that Floyd doesn't move laterally too much, he did it in that clip a couple of times while stalking Ortiz but not much else. He either stands in places or pivots on his front foot while evading punches. So it's more that he's saying that Marquez's footwork worked well against Pac and Floyd doesn't have the same kind of footwork. It's still great footwork, it's just different and Bogotazo doesn't think Floyd's it will work that well against Pac.

    It's something to think about at least, whether you agree with it or not.
     
  11. UpperCut2

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    Not automatically, just more likely than not. At a "catchweight" without "nutcracking uppercuts" and "plaster of paris" yes. He's a far more gifted boxer.

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  12. UpperCut2

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    Floyd is an extremely gifted athlete who adapts his gameplan situationally. No one thougt he would come forward against Mosely or Ortiz. "STFU w/ yo DA" is the best you got. I gave you too much credit. It must have been tough on you when you showed up to get that GED only to find out that those "pesky" things called tests were still required.:bbb:good
     
  13. Manfred

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    Yeah, but the only ones that counted was the last two and you know who threw them.
     
  14. boxing_RN

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    If u look at my name, it would tell you what I did for a living, but u wouldn't know as u never finished grade school. Floyd is gifted, but it's not like Manny isn't. Floyd has been ducking tough oppositon and fighting only people he knows he can beat, so of course he'll look good. Last guy he fought who wasn't a gimme was de la Hoya, and that was an ugly win for him. Cotto and Margo would've given him hell so he chose retirement and he's been ducking Pac for the same reason. I bet now he's willing to make the fight, too bad Pac now wants a rematch with Marquez.
     
  15. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Miguel Cotto nor slow ass Margarito give Floyd a tough time. Mosley didnt give Floyd a tough time and he beat Margarito's ass and had a close fight with Cotto where Cotto had to box off the back foot to get the W.


    Werent you freaking out saying Manny had no chance against Floyd? What made you change your tune? Manny's foot cramps? :rofl