Marquez Defeating Pacquiao DOES NOT Indicate Pac Loses to Floyd- A Technical Summary

regarding the foot movement I saw the fight again recently and noticed in the overhead replay of round 12 how quick these guys are at shifting around the ring, this fight's so good its just disappointing there's all this stigma behind it

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Your crazy...footwork by Manny is pathetic..all that stutter stepping he does...he would get countered by Floyd...fact, he already got countered by Marquez who is not nearly as quick to react as Floyd.

Floyd is much bigger than Manny and Manny has a short jab...Floyd could counter that all night.

Floyd would counter Pac's amatuer hook as well..he coudl throw a 2 (right hand) when Pac "runs in"...

Floyd could let loose with a very hard 1-2 jab right hand when Pac "runs in."

Mayweather T/KO Pac in 7...maybe 8 rounds...easier fight for Floyd than 162 pound Cotto.

 

Floyd need to move away from the ropes. It's becoming an annoying habit to see him rested on against the ropes that much. JMM has displayed better lateral movements against southpaws, but Floyd has proven to be a sharper and more accurate puncher against southpaws. I think he would be able to control Manny with his jab and constantly use it as a bait to set up his straight right and uppercuts, but he would have to move away from the ropes from time to time.

Roger need to advise Floyd not to rest against the ropes for too long, I think most higher ranked trainers like, Beristáin, Steward, ect would've constantly advises Floyd to fight in the center of the ring. I know most Floyd fans seems to think that Floyd does everything nearly perfect, but even at this stage of his career, I think a trainer like Pedro Diaz or Steward would help him to improved his lateral movements when it comes to circling out of harms way rather than backing up and resting against the ropes as he likes to do.

 

No wonder he choose to walking down southpaws instead of outboxing and countering them on his back foot. He's a sucker for straight punches and it gets worse when he choose to rest against the ropes.

 

I know most fans likes to give Roger credit, but he seems incompetent when it comes to properly advises Floyd. Floyd is an ultra-talented boxer and while i do think Roger deserved some credit, he doesn't give Floyd the proper effective advises like most trainers would do, it just so happens that Floyd is one of those boxers who can figure out few things on his own. I like the fact that he has helped transformed Floyd into a more offensive minded boxer, but he does not give him the right type of advise when it comes to defense.

 

I think It would be an effective tactic if he were to emulate JMM's movements by constantly stepping around and moving away from Manny's straight left. I don't think he should try to emulate the way JMM throw punches, but he should definitely try to use that same type of effective movements. He would be able to conserve enough energy by feinting in spots, ect.

 

Haven't posted in here in awhile. Hmm, lemme just say that Floyd relies more on his reflexes to counter than does Marquez. That's why he tends to be more stationary. He's a leaner, and he's more of a slip and counter, whereas JMM controls distance with lateral movement ie, measure and counter. JMM's style obviously "ages" better as compared to someone who relies on speed and reflexes. The Cotto fight showed that Floyd isn't as "slippery" as the vintage Floyd....and if Pac hasn't dramatically lost his speed and explosion will work in favor of Pac. I will say though that age at 33, and wtih Manny's high wear and tear style....his window of opportunity could also be closing.

 

Even Jeff Mayweather seems to agree that Floyd would have to box Manny instead of trying to walking him down.

 

Here's also one important fact for the discussion:

MARQUEZ DOESN'T FARE WELL AGAINST SLICK COUNTERPUNCHERS.

Proof: 1. Chris John
2. MAB on boxer mode (see the first five rounds of their fight)
3. Floyd
4. Super-shot Casamayor

The reason why JMM fared badly against Floyd is because JMM style doesnt works too well against slicksters, while working extremely well against brawlers.

Of course, aside from the weight advantage Floyd had.

In other words, Floyd's win over JMM is overrated. In fact it shouldnt even be factored in because Floyd cheated on the scales.

 

Bradley fights nothing like Marquez and he was able to neutralize alot of Pacquiao's power by just slight movement and swiveling his waist to not give Pacquiao a face target to hit.

The Bradley fight was not Pacquiao's finest hour and Bradley is nowhere near the level fighter Mayweather is.

If anything Tazo, Pacquiao's performance against Bradley who has so little pop in his punche should convince anyone Pacquiao has no business in a ring with Mayweather.

 

^in a nut shell, bradley just kept ducking. that's all.

 

lol yes it does.