Marquez Defeating Pacquiao DOES NOT Indicate Pac Loses to Floyd- A Technical Summary

Why are you so full of sh*t? No one is "butthurt" in fact the only one who might be is you because you're so full of sh*t your ass has to be sore.

Show me these left hands Ortiz landed. SHOW ME. I musta missed those "GIFs".

Mayweather was repeatedly walking into lefts against Mitchell? SHOW ME.

Judah was landing lefts after round four?? How many? SHOW ME.

 

Bogo, back at it again. Opinion is a hell of a thing.

 

Manny has developed a recent allergy to right hands that has lead to a couple of serious fainting spells.

 

Yes we see Floyd get hit by some lefts here and there but Pac can't avoid the right to save his life and JMM was mainly just using 1-2s to catch Pac. Floyd got the best right hand in the game today. He is extremely sharp and quick with his rights. He would land his more than Pac would land his.

 

Just out of curiosity Bogotazo how did you have the Bradley Pac fight scored

 

Bogo, great analysis. Love JMM but haven't seent he fight yet surprisingly. TBH, I do still think Floyd would beat Pacquiao like a drum but styles do make fights and they'll never fight so we'll never know. Its obvious he saw something in Pacquiao that would trouble him and both of them cherrypicking is what led me not to be fans of them anymore.

I will just rehash what I said earlier. Floyd is more stationary though more athletic thus presenting an easier target but he can fall back more on reflexes. Marquez circles more and counters with more intent but also looks to trade more.

One reason Pacquiao would always struggle against either is his impatience which would cost him but I think he could take a few early rds from Floyd from being busy. Again, he's impatient. You cant expect to beat Floyd without knowing how to pace yourself and without a solid jab at least through a series. 1 fight we don't know how the cards would look turned over.

Props Marquez for fighting both and just giving your all through your career. Great win and hopefully Manny can bounce back through retirement or being a pro. I do agree with Donaire that Manny has to rededicate himself which its possible its too late to do.

 

Again its isnt that he cant get close, its the shots eaten on the way there and once you get there. Hell he even has to worry about getting hit on the way out because he cant stay there .All the fighters you named (Augustus, Cotto, De La Hoya, Ortiz, Chavez, Hatton) All either got stopped or hurt badly in their fight vs floyd. Majority of the time the shot that hurt them resulted from them not jabbing to close the distance. You dont jab, floyd sees the shot coming and you get picked off. Floyd doesnt even have to use the jab on a regular basis, just remind manny he can eat that shot also on the way in or at a distance.

Manny can get past it but even then if he makes floyd miss with it he still has to close the gap with something other than his feet. Floyd isnt some plodder with poor defense. If pac does hit him with the left how many times can he just keep going to the well for it? What happens after the left gets taken away? whats plan B? What does pac do on the inside?

And i do see floyd walking him down at times while keeping the distance, he has the defense and handspeed to do so

 

His fourth actually.

 

LOL at the LUX avatar

 

Mayweather is better at everything compared to Marquez. He's also a counter puncher with a GREAT lead right. That's the summary.

 

Hatton jumped in many times too and got countered more than any other Floyd opponent I can remember.

Mosley even used a jab to catch Floyd with that overhand right which was set up nicely though Floyd got reckless. Dont ever think Pacquiao would employ that plus he doesn't have the strength to try to muscle Floyd like Mosley attempted.

He didn't say Pacquiao would win just that JMM beating Pacq doesn't mean Floyd automatically does too.

Me too. He'd be more frustrated from eating rights than gassed. Floyd is the best at making people think despite him not needing to throw a lot. Then, POP! he tags them usually with a right hand.

 

Bogo, always love reading your posts. Always very interesting. It seems as though you're saying that JMM's style is better suited to cause Manny problems than is Mayweather's. I think that this is still a fairly competitive fight. Mayweather clearly wins though. Against Ortiz, Mayweather proved that he he can still successfully shoulder roll against southpaws. His right hand was landing at will.

I know that Ortiz is a completely different fighter than Pacquiao, and not an elite fighter, but I think that Mayweather will be able to time Pacquiao, and catch him coming in with that double jab hop thing Pac does. I think we will also see the left hook in this fight, as he had success with it against Southpaws. You stated that Mayweather could'nt consistently get his foot on the outside of Judah's, but doing just that is how he managed to land that left hook on Judah.

I understand where you're coming from though, in no way is a Mayweather victory against pacquiao a foregone conclusion just because Marquez beat him.