Marquez Defeating Pacquiao DOES NOT Indicate Pac Loses to Floyd- A Technical Summary

Stick your technical summuary up your ass. Pac is damaged goods. Knocked out cold --- concussion ?????
Accept defeat. He got beat by a better fighter.
JMM actually beat him 4 times in a row with gift decisions for Pac going against him.
Get serious.
Pac wouldnt hit PBF in the ass.
Probably get KO'd inside 3 rounds.
What he would need for a fight with PBF would be 2 or 3 wins over very worthy opponents.
Except every time he fights he risks another KO BY.
He is done.

 

Jmm clocked him with a over hand right for the first KD....Floyd was nailing Cotto with these and setting them up perfectly...had it not been for the weight and those gloves...i don't think Cotto survives. Not saying Cotto and Pac are the same but Floyd throws a beautiful over hand right.

The KO seals it for me....JMM timed Pac and his lunging and dipped left threw a beautiful straight right...again Floyd has been doing this and he also has the check hook he uses when fighters lung which is just as effective....(see Hatton).

Once Floyd has Pac's timing down.....it's a wrap. Like JMM it will take some early rounds to get it down...once he does and Pac lunges...he will pay...now i dont know if it will be emphatic like JMM's KO....but Pac will find himself in trouble more often than not because he doesn't close the distance properly and against Floyd who again has a exceptional reach advantage and height coupled with other abilities....LONG NIGHT FOR PAC...or Short

 

Double-jab from under, straight left hand over, then pivot out. I guess Floyd would have a really hard time from timing him and not being able to make any adjustments. lead foot positioning can only be effective if you're planning on mixing up your punches to confuse your opponent like Cotto did when he caught Floyd with punch after he switched his stance and changed direction. But in a case, where you have a fighter like Pacquiao who's more of a rhythm type of fighter that constantly throw the same type of punches, same bounce-bounce with the double-jab, and straight left hand, right hook, you can't expect a fighter of Floyd's caliber to not make any adjustments or figures out his pattern. Floyd doesn't fight like JMM, but let's not pretend that there's only one way of beating Manny.

 

I've always seen Pac's style giving Floyd problems, primarily because of Floyd's defensive style which is at times flat footed, and he fights in straight lines. That and he pot shots rather then putting punches together.

That said, looking at the last fight with Marquez, Pac's chin all of a sudden looks to be a liability. One of his strengths has always been his iron chin and toughness. Not that he's glaw jawed now but it seems his chin may have cracked a little bit, and that could be a liability with Floyd who's turned into a fairly decent hitter.

It's really hard to say how this fight would go because we don't know how much Floyd has left either. He's getting old, and he certainly didn't look all that great in his last fight. We also don't know how Pacquiao's going to look in 2013. I imagine that that's the last year he'll be fighting - or at least it should be.

 

So far, you're one of the very few fans who still thinks Manny would win at this point. At the end of the day, Manny isn't effective at fighting backing up. Manny makes far more tactical mistakes than Floyd does. Lead foot-positioning would be the very least important tactic to determine who would win this fight. There are simply a lot more important aspects to determine who would win, and Floyd has all the clear advantages to be the favorite to win.

 

Manny gets schooled by any top fighter right now let alone Floyd. I'm even willing to bet Cotto beats Manny at this point at a true 154 pounds with no catch weights. Manny is done and just like guys who get KO'ed it becomes easier and easier to do so.

 

Bogotzo, you speak knowledge, but you waste your time on this forum.

People got favorites and they automatically assume their favorites can beat anyone.

Most of these mother ****ers never stepped a day in hte ring and those that have, probably got their ass whupped.

They don't understand what works and what styles work, and how to utilize strenghts and weaknesses, and how there are differences between counterpunchers.

And why at some point size matters.

 

You're using a gif of a slow Margarito pressing the attack compared to a quick sharpshooter like Floyd. You've pointed out some great tactical stuff as usual, but Floyd doesn't attack southpaws like the way he attacked Cotto in this gif. He would measure Manny up with the jab, and then set up the straight right. I think you've said before that Floyd wouldn't be able to land the left hook on Manny constantly, but i beg to differ. I think he would easily catch Manny that punch especially when Manny tend to bend low after he finish throwing his combos, Floyd would tag him downstairs with that punch with regularity.

 

Mayweather would never run into a right hand like that ever. Its all bout when you know your going to get hit verse taking the punch and the absorbing it. You got to know your position which is why I think Pac would get KO again...SAME OLD MOVES ,ROACH TEACHES DAY IN AND DAY OUT. Roach & Pac always say they're bringing new things to the table but its still the same ole leftovers from years ago.

 

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I still like this video. If you can just ignore Roger's **** talking, or just start it at the 3:09 min mark.