Marquez drug testing scandal!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Bambamrios, Aug 9, 2013.


  1. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    BINGO!!!!

    I think you nailed it Kirk. I think Bradley has lost his confidence.
    He was hurt and staggered many times in that Ruslan fight.

    Its not out of the question to look at that fight and say that Bradley is damaged goods.

    Bradley may be just that and deep inside he himself might know it.

    A fighter that does'nt have confidence in himself spends his time moping and feeling sorry for himself. Thats the picture of Tim Bradley in that interview.

    First time he gets hit square by Marquez, Bradley will go into a shell and start running just like Mosley did against Pacquiao, convinced Marquez is a murderous puncher.
     
  2. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Bradley's not scared. He's a warrior. He wasn't scared of Manny, wasn't scared to trade with Ruslan, he's not gonna be scared of Marquez

    And let's not forget, Tim wasn't the only party in this fight who suffered a concussion in his last fight
     
  3. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    I thought the same of Shane Mosley before his mind convinced him Pacquiao was the hardest hitting Welter of all time! :nut
     
  4. TiltyNose

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    Timothy Bradley: I'll Do Whatever It Takes To Beat Juan Manuel Marquez

    Bradley's Marquez Warning: "I Always Find A Way To Win - Even When I'm Hurt"

    Tim Bradley says the 'writing is on the wall' with Juan Manuel Marquez and the drug-testing drama

    ..what next? "No Mas"?
     
  5. Mr Pibb

    Mr Pibb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Stop lying...JMM did not look flabby and old.
     
  6. SUPER TROJAN

    SUPER TROJAN Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I am with you 100%. I was happy to see Marquez get that Pacquiao KO, but now that luster is wearing off. It's too easy to agree to all the testing and remove all doubt. It's even worse when Bob Arum is coming up with his own type of testing for the fight. Why the heck would he do that?! You know something's up. I'm sure Bob Arum would prefer to see Marquez against Pacquiao again. That's the fight that would make more money, and it would allow Manny to get his revenge.

    As much as I like Marquez, I hope it's The Desert Storm that sends him into retirement!
     
  7. texboxing00

    texboxing00 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    so was reading about vada & usada & so far the only people who talk bad about Usada are Conte & contes asscoiates. Here are a few refrences to people saying that Usadas test methods are not up to par. Floyd used usada for cotto/mayweather fight so its kind of hard to say usada is pointless. Also vada is associated with Conte who HATES herida for Herida snitching him out. Its conflict of intrest wether you use usada or you use Vada so theres really no argument here. I understand JMM opting not to do vada is a questionable but also take into account that JMM is Heridias biggest client & Conte is associated with Vada, Conte did time for his association with peds (yes he was asscoiated with peds) & Herdia did not because he snitched him out. Both Usada & Vada have ties with 2 cheats. Here are some refrences

    (Conte takes shots at Usada)

    "If USADA were doing the testing, he said, the CIR test would only have been done if a red flag was raised from their testosterone-to-epitestosterone test, or T/E ratio, test," the original post read. "Under USADA rules, if the T/E level breaches a 4-1 ratio, a CIR is then administered."((

    (Usada responds)

    "CIR is a regular part of the USADA testing program for all athletes under USADA's jurisdiction, as well as a routine part of the anti-doping programs conducted by USADA in the sport of professional boxing," USADA said. "It is completely inaccurate to say that CIR testing would only be done if a T/E ratio is 4-1."

    USADA countered that CIR has, in fact, been embraced in the testing community:

    "CIR has been used by anti-doping organizations internationally since the early 2000s and there have been many athletes sanctioned by USADA and other national anti-doping organizations around the world as the result of CIR testing. CIR is an important tool in our toolbox and we use it strategically and effectively."

    "USADA also collects longitudinal data that allows us to monitor any fluctuations in an athlete's own biological parameters and closely examine any changes or indicators," USADA said. "(USADA) can also confirm that for the (May 5) Mayweather vs. Cotto fight, all of the samples collected from both fighters underwent CIR testing."

    http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/boxing/post/_/id/1430/usada-counters-conte-assertions

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    Just takes a quick google, what it boils down to is Conte just having a fit & pointing fingers. Both Conte & Herdia were both proven cheats so whats the diffrence if they both lied to assist athelets in cheating. Both are guilty for being involved so I dont see how any one really points fingers. I tried to look for other sources to question usadas testing but only finds are from victors claims. Maybe I just overlooked it but will consider it if refrence to Usada testing being faulty is provided. Its all one big cluster fck, only option would be to go with 3rd party company.
     
  8. DBLOCK

    DBLOCK Well-Known Member Full Member

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    man,the hypocritical things that the marquez ko victory over pacquiao brought out makes me laugh.
     
  9. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Everything that's occurred since Memo came on board indicates that Jmm is a cheating *******. I hope Tim whoops dat ass.
     
  10. rjamesd1

    rjamesd1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It's either you're DUMB or ONE TRACK MIND. :hat
     
  11. ecdrm15

    ecdrm15 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yep, $$$

    :deal
     
  12. ecdrm15

    ecdrm15 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :deal:bbb
     
  13. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    ......and what has occured? Marquez' continued dominance over everyone except Floyd Mayweather who is quicker, faster, stronger, bigger, and who cheated him on the scales????????

    Marquez beat Pacquiao with and without Heredia! :deal

    *******s stlll butthurt! :lol:
     
  14. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  15. Cormega

    Cormega Quadruple OG Full Member

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