"Marquez far superior to Mayweather"

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Beouche, Jul 10, 2013.


  1. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Floyd started his career at 130, dude.

    You embarrass yourself too much.
     
  2. HitBattousai

    HitBattousai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    JMM has far more balls than Floyd in terms of taking on challenges and is more entertaining by far in the ring. That said, Floyd is the clearly better fighter.
     
  3. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Your feeble attempt at trying to dis Floyd falls far short of even an attempt to dis Floyd. Try again.
     
  4. Tha Pointman

    Tha Pointman New Member Full Member

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    LoL Yep, I said that simply to say that Marquez is a better fighter in my eyes. And thats not saying that Floyd sucks btw. Hes the best p4p(undefeated, ppv draw, etc) but there are holes in Floyds game that can be exploited. Seriously tho, when was the last time Floyd fought someone that can match his speed?????? All im saying is if you take a fighter with JJM boxing skill and in ring IQ, give him fast hands, and Floyd gets beat plain and simple......And for the record if Leflop Lames was 6'5 220 he wouldnt be as good as he is right now.....:hat
     
  5. TMTPrince

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  6. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    this is all a style thing.

    jmm shines against pressure fighters which floyd is not.
     
  7. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Wjat else can i say - technically Floyd is wonderful, just a shame Castillo beat his courage n will t win outta him
     
  8. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    :lol: Try again.
     
  9. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Neither is true, but your last sentence saved you.
     
  10. dlts20

    dlts20 Active Member Full Member

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    none of what youre saying makes any sense. It just doesnt. 1st of all, why are you trying to play Floyd like he's Hearns, Paul Williams, or Chico or someone like that? You make it sound like Floyd's some huge guy that has all these advantages on guys and thats why he wins. Thats b.s.

    He's P4P one of the smallest guys in boxing and has always been. He's fought in 5 divisions. He was coming into the ring at 138 pounds for LW fights, 143 pounds for SLW fights, 146-148 pounds for his WW fights until recently and now he's 150 for his 154 pound fights. I remember him being 146 against Zab for a WW fight while Pac was 145 for a 130 pound fight.

    He's going to be giving up nearly 25 pounds to Canelo in his next fight. He's had a ton of fights like that. He's not big at all. On top of that you are crazy if you think JMM is a better pure skilled fighter or has a better IQ. he doesnt. No one in boxing does and the only one close is Hopkins.

    You say he hasnt fought anyone fast since Zab but all of that is subjective. Floyd is fast and nearly everyone is going to seem slower. Shane was fast and he fought him. Ortiz has some speed to. Name the fast guys that Pac or JMM fought.

    Bottom line is a guy like Roy Jones gets by on his athletic ability which is why he falls off when he loses it. Floyd is not like that. He's fundementally sound. Thats why now he's still great even when he's clearly declined. He's still the smartest fighter out tthere, still the most fundementally sound, and still has the best defense.

    JMM is not better in any way. He does basically nothing better than Floyd. Nothing. Your argument of give JMM this and that or make Lebron 6'5 means nothing. You can say that about anything or anyone. Make Allen Iverson 7ft and he's the best player ever or give a 7 footer Allen Iverson's skillset then he's the best ever. Its a dumb argument.

    Again, I could see if you were saying that Floyd beats people by bending teh boxing rules and coming into the ring wiht huge size advantage. I could see right now if Floyd entered the ring at 175 and always fights guys who were 150 but thats not the case. Infact its the exact opposite. He's so good that he's not allowed to fight anyone his own size.

    If he fights anyone at 140 or 147 its a cherry pick. If any of those guys fight eachother then its must see but if Floyd picks them then its unfair and he knows he's going to win. He's only allowed to fight 154 pounders who will have 20 pounds on him in the ring for it to be a fair fight