Marquez is talking about retiring, if this happens will Manny/Arum run or fight Floyd

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  1. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    Thing is Marquez is nearly 39 and bulked up for this fight, have him waiting around getting older wont make the fight better, Floyd is in great shape and could easily fight someone else and still be the same when facing pac in november.
    It seems everyone of the floyd fans now want to jump on the opportunity asap like a lion on a wounded zebra, but for me that can easily wait a little for a fourth fight. I wouldnt mind it if he fought floyd next actually, it would proof some things. I just prefer marquez 4 first.
     
  2. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    Manny and his team pulled out of the first fight. They lied about agreeing to testing after that. Team Pacquiao don't want any of Mayweather. You know that . I even told your ass that Marquez was going to box the **** out of Manny as well and you couldn't believe that for a second. So will you be okay if they fight a 5th time if Marquez gives Manny a boxing lesson again? They want to fight Marquez until Manny can somehow get a knockout.
     
  3. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    Stop making excuses for this blatant duck by Team PACQUIAO. I respect you and your opinion but you know damn well that this is some bull****. A 4th fight? Really? So will you be okay if the 4th fight goes the same way and they do a 5th and 6th one as well?
     
  4. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Its anybody but Floyd for Pac. Arum knows fully well what Floyd is capable of. He's not stupid.
     
  5. Uncle Rico

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    You piece of ****, stop making things up. You told me not to be surprised if JMM outboxed Manny again, and I ****ing agreed with you! I was one of the few people on here who tirelessly argued with those who claimed JMM was not a worthy opponent for Pac, and that he was going to be destroyed.
     
  6. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    There have been plenty of opportunities after the clottey fight but then he was on vacation after mosley after having lost his urge, only to come back a week after marquez 3 was announced to fight ortiz.
    And now people need to do whatever he wants asap? he likes waiting so much let him wait 5 more months, you probably still think the outcome whould be the same in may or november, there is no need to rush it then, let marquez be first.
     
  7. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Fighting Marquez a 4th time is bull**** and a waste of time. If Saturday was the first time they had fought, I would have no problem with a rematch. However, they've fought 3 times already. All 3 fights were similar. There is no reason to believe that the 4th will be different. Honestly, what the hell does Manny have to gain? Absolutely nothing. There would be a lot for him to lose though.
     
  8. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    True, you did say that it was possible. My apologies for lumping you in with all the rest. :thumbsup Bottom line though is that this **** is a straight up duck. What happens after Marquez puts it on Manny a 4th time? Do they fight him again? Its bull**** and I really can't believe Pac fans who talked all that **** are okay with this.
     
  9. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    Thats why I said IF marquez wants it, if marquez says **** it then sure fight floyd next, but for me he kind of earned to call the shot to fight him next.
    Im not happy with the outcome of the third fight either but it doesnt mean the option should be excluded for marquez.
    But maybe its true, maybe a pac vs marquez fight cant not end up in controversy and it would be the same situation every time they fight.
    It has to end some time, maybe fighting floyd first them marquez 2 more times before retiring is better, I dont know to be honest. I just feel it to be more unfair to marquez than to mayweather if he doesnt get the opportunity to make the fight next.
     
  10. Uncle Rico

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    The difference with this third one, is that the gap was even wider in favour of JMM. At least one and two were agonizingly close where a legit argument for a Pacquiao win could easily be made. But the same can’t be done with the last one. He couldn't mount anything effective, and his legacy/reputation has taken quite a hit after all the hype/promise of him destroying JMM. He’d have a lot to gain by correcting it.
     
  11. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    I would much rather see Marquez get a second shot at Floyd. How about that? He deserves that since he beat Manny on Saturday. Then Manny and his team came out with all these excuses. Cramps, sore feet, and didn't get to eat. Is the mother****er pregnant or something? :rofl
     
  12. BigReg

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    He can't correct it. He's already arguably lost 3 times to this guy. Even if he knocks him out in the 4th fight, everyone will just claim Marquez was past it. If he struggles again to Marquez, then he looks even worse. At least if he loses to Mayweather, it would be totally expected. If he were to beat Mayweather, it would really raise his stock. Whether he wins or loses against Mayweather, a 4th fight with Marquez is still a viable option. No one will want to see him fight Mayweather if he loses to Marquez. Fighting Mayweather is a no lose situation for Pac, fighting Marquez is a no win situation.
     
  13. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    The Marquez that fought pac last saturday doesnt to much better vs floyd than he did in 2009, floyd very clearly beat him already.
    I have to say though regardless of what the fans want I thought Arum was kind of looking for ways to not fight Floyd next based on his pre fight comments. And he now certainly has the excuse to not do it.
    You can basically bank on it that he will be making marquez 4 next, if we like it or not.
     
  14. Uncle Rico

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    :lol: Aight, cool. Sorry for the piece of **** comment :good

    And it's not a duck, man. After all the Pac-May nonsense over the last couple of years, we should known by now that things aren't as simple as that. If JMM puts on a clinic for the 4th time, then yes, the whole bull**** should be dropped. But as of now, when Pac-May happening next was never likely anyway (remember how before the JMM fight even took place, Schaefer was building up Khan for May and, Arum doing the same for Bradley and Pac), it's not that big of a deal/surprise. It's not like Pac is putting of a fight that was set in concrete.
     
  15. mrjotatp4p

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    I honestly feel that Pac fans don't want to see Mayweather dominate Manny. All the **** talking going on the past year or so and now the fighters have the perfect opportunity to get it on and Bob Arum wants a 4th fight and Manny does too. Pac fans are okay with that. :rofl