Marquez: It would be better if the fight was at 140, 141

Pacquiao needs to take in 7,000+ calories a day during training to get up to 147 because by that time span he will lose around 10 pounds automatically due to heavy training so for him to fight at his walk around weight he needs to replenish that by consuming calories more than normal. Why do you think fighters can go down more down 20 pounds of their walk around weight? It's the combination of draining and heavy training. It's like PBF making claim that Pac's feats are equivalent to him moving up & knocking out heavyweights which boxing fans knew it's bs. Both of them started at lower weights which obviously, PBF is baiting his fans or casual fans who don't know the mechanics of boxing even the simple weight issue is a mystery...

 

interesting comments. it validates the general consensus that Marquez doesn't belong anywhere near above 140...as if the Mayweather fight wasnt enough proof for those who claimed otherwise...this time it came straight from the horses mouth.

 

It would be fairer at 140, but so would fights like Chavez-Whitaker. You don't hear anyone crying about Chavez being at a disadvantage.

Pac has been the same weight his last four fights, he's the draw, he's the one giving Marquez the opportunity.

Plus Pac's most important fight could be next so he wouldn't want to be messing around with what's worked so well for him. He was never going to compromise that to accomodate Marquez so he'd have a better chance at 140.

Marquez getting 144 was the best he could have hoped for, he got it, he should STFU, or like you someone else said pull out of the fight if he's not happy. Pacquiao fought him at his best weight the first fight.

 

marquez stfu and just come in at 138-140, simple as that...

you said it yourself, you're both small men, so that wont even be a difference for pac to come in at that weight...BUT IT WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE FOR YOU TO COME IN AT 144....SO ****EN COME IN AT 138-140 AND STFU ALREADY !!!!!!!!!

 

fight night, JMM will weigh about 146, Pac will weigh about 148. I don't really see the big deal on in their agreed catchweight.

 

Yeah, I know, Pacquiao is a small WW who could be fighting at LW. He should also fight Martinez at 154.

I don't remember Cotto complaining, don't doubt he did though. It's not that bad, Cotto is entitled to set the terms to suit him being the draw (he didn't get 150 like he wanted tho) and he feels cheated by Margo for the first fight

 

Detractors? Behave. A detractor is now someone who doesn't agree with your opinion?

Take another look at the take of the tape, in fact, search for a tale of the tape thread before the bout...you will see that my opinion has not changed. There is not a big size difference at all.

 

The purpose of a catch weight is to be a fair balance between size and speed. In theory by Pac moving up in weight he should lose a little speed because of the extra weight. Cotto by cutting a little more weight should lose some power.

Pac in the end didn't sacrifice or lose anything moving up to 145 (as first proven earlier in his first attempt vs Hoya) to fight Cotto. Cotto though had to sacrifice his only possible advantage in the fight which was his power. Regardless Cotto deosn't have the reflexes to keep Pac off him, but at least he would have had a chance at hurting Pac a lot more to keep it interesting.

Another reason why the its silly to talk about Mayweather's weight vs Marquez is Mayweather relies on speed and reflexes more so then anything and him being lighter would only enhance those things in a Marquez fight.

Don't take this as me knocking them at all for it cuz I really am not. Lets just not act like its something its not or act like its not something that it is. If Mayweather wanted the fight at 140 they would want that no problem. Because it has nothing to do with Pac making the weight and everything to do with the opponent they are looking to face. If Pac had trouble making weight at 140 then it would be understandable.

 

Again Doc u didnt get the point.

Yes 140 is his optimum wieght, which is why going down to his more comfartable weight, then going back up to 147 would not be good for a potential show down for a possbile mayweather fight as change is not good.

If you believe what you said, and you honestly believe it would benefit pac to take the fight at 140 to then take his next fight at WW, surely Ariza the fitness oracle, and Roach the Boxing oracle would have adopted this plan?

Or are you saying you know more about a fighter you probably havent even been in the same room with, than two highly respected and proven masterminds in their respective jobs.

Now you could say its more about getting Marquez out of his comfort weight which is what i expect you, and i do agree this is part of the equation, but they are also trying to keep pac at WW level.

Its just not going to help him in the long run. You make out as if hes just gotta eat less and drop the weight, which is true, but i dont think you understand that his body is used to doing what it does, and any change could be the difference between winning or loosing his next fight.

 

If they are fighting at Welterweight then it should really be at 147.

I do see Marquez's point. I wish he had beaten Judah earlier this year and taken that 140 belt. Then they could have fought for the IBF Welter title again

 

cotto didnt lose the fight on the scales he lost the fight with his choice of trainers. manny publically came out and said that he wanted to train cotto. maybe it would not have mattered and maybe it would have.

the little boy in his corner that night certainly did him no favors.

 

Marquez should just come in at his natural weight, no need to put on extra muscle, imo...

 

yea that was a bad decision.

the little boy across the ring didn't do him any favors either tho

 

The weight was a factor against Mayweather. He didn't want to come in light against a much bigger man, and bulked to increase durability and strength. He might change his regimen for Pacquiao, but the bad style matchup just made his sluggish physical condition all the more apparent. It's not as bad against someone like Pacquiao, but after Marquez being so old already, it's just another advantage going the other way.