[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kCbjQGghNw&NR=1[/ame] here's my scorecard for John (Norwood fight follows a few posts down) M-J 1: 10-9 - M landing all the clean shots, J is very ineffective 2: 10-9 - more of the same great right hand by M at the start snaps J's head back. 3: 9-10 - decent round by M, holding the centre and landing good combos. J did land a good shot about a minute in and had a good last half minute this round the better shots came form J. 4: 10-9 - another good effort by John, but again the cleaner work is coming from M, J fought well on the back foot but M pressured well at times with good body work. 5: 10-9 - brilliant display by marquez so far, he's consistently coming out on top of all the exchanges, forcing john to back away, miss, come in and get beaten to the punch. 6: 9-10 - better round by John who timed marquez well and was able to beat him to the punch and get out of range afterwards. 7: 10-9 - good work by marquez here, he is more intelligent with his work and shows good aggression backing john up. john is not able to time marquez and it makes me think juan took round 5 off. 8: 10-9 - good work by both fighters here, but more of it again coming from marquez, his combination punching is very good and john can't handle it too well. 9: 10-9 - good exchanges in this round, John seems content with the work he's doing but he's constantly being beaten to the punch and is coming out second best in the majority of exchanges 10: 9-9 - M deducted a point for hitting marquez with a body shot on the belt and got caught by a flush combo with about 30 seconds left, that aside he controlled the round with a superior display of combo throwing and counter punching 11: 8-10 - M deducted another point for a body shot on the belt. J's defence was quite solid in this round and he landed some very good shots on a clearly frustrated M who looked quite sloppy 12: 9-10 - M starts really strong in this round but after about the minute mark John starts to out box him to a good finish for the final round. 114-112 This was actually a good fight, but even more importantly it was a good performance by Marquez, he should not have lost this and I'd actually call it a robbery. round 3 could have gone his way but I gave John the slight edge, the point deductions were especially harsh imo and after the 2nd deduction marquez got kinda wild and sloppy, but by then he'd done more than enough to rack up a huge lead and no way was this a loss for him.
which rounds did you score John? i genuinely thought i was being generous and can see no way he deserves this victory.
I watched this fight some time ago and posted my score but as I recall I had John winning the fight. I recall the problem with Marquez in this fight, is he did do anything to win. He laid back and try to counter punch John a very boring fight.
i watched this with no sound (my monitor's speaker is broke) but from what i understand the commentators and crowd are very pro john. i mean the guy does very little until the last couple of rounds and is consistently beaten to the punch by jmm and comes out second best in almost every exchange. just watched the norwood fight and that's an even bigger robbery, i'll post that scorecard in a sec.
good fight imo, very technical. John picks off a lot of shots with his guard in this fight. JMM has more power behind hit shots and John is more of the quick boxer. I scored it a draw last time I watched it.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdxJh7R51w4&NR=1[/ame] M-N 1: 10-9 - cagey first round, norwood stalking with his slippery stance and marquez jabbing off the back foot later in the round M gets a couple of decent combos in. 2: 8-10 - beautiful counter left by norwood dropping M early on. norwood lands some good lefts later in the round also. 3: 10-9 - norwood fighting very negative this round and still being caught with clean shots by M. 4: 10-9 - marquez again chasing N round the ring and still landing some good combos on him. N lands a flashy 1-2 but aside from that did nothing of note. 5: 10-9 - again N being very negative, lands a good combo early on but then for the rest of the round retreats and still gets tagged regularly by M. 6: 10-9 - another frustrating round, norwood thinking he can win by landing one clean shot and avoiding everything marquez throws at him, not realising that M's shots are still getting through. 7: 9-10 - norwood alnded some cracking counters this round whilst slipping the majority of M's punches. 8: 10-9 - good round by marquez, landing his right hand consistently throughout the round, denied a clear kd. 9: 10-8 - good round by marquez again, landing good combos and dropping norwood just before the bell. 10: 10-9 - marquez again dictating the action, norwood fighting a very defensive fight but still being caught by marquez. 11: 9-10 - norwood lands some good shots on marquez and slips out of the way of most of the return fire. 12: 10-9 - very scruffy round, norwood lands some eye catching lefts but for the most part is on the back foot being tagged as he tries slipping. 116-110 this was a bigger robbery in my eyes and wasn't even close. norwood did very little this fight and JMM had a legit kd waived off.
i'm going to re-score jmm 2 fights with you know who, but i figure that's best to be a seperate thread otherwise these two fights won't get discussed at all
this is so ****en true....made a thread about this and many agreed, but still kept that "a loss is a loss" mentality and didnt care to talk about it