Marquez: "Objectively, I Can Honestly Say Hamed Shouldn't Be In The Hall Of Fame"

I couldn't agree more, and I have written lengthy posts to explain exactly why. Hamed could have fought Marquez, Morales, Norwood and Espinosa in the late 90s/early 2000s. Other than Barrera who beat him relatively easily, the best fighter he fought was Vuyani Bungu or Kevin Kelley. He is not nor ever was on the same quality level as Marquez, Morales or Barrera, and he does not deserve to be inducted into the Hall of Fame.

 

I think so.

Marquez is just trying to **** on the man's career and needs to worry about the future and his own damn career. **** that gossip Hamed was twice as entertaining.

 

Hamed was never all that special except for his power and his showmanship. He would never have beaten any of the big three, even on the best day of his life. He was never on their level.

 

An over the hill Kelley who gave every bit as good as he got.

 

Who knows really? Hamed had the WBO and then the IBF title since 97 and was P4P for a while long before Marquez ever did anything special. Marquez lost his title shot to Norwood in 99 then woohoo beats Robbie Peden three years later. Hamed was top dog when Marquez wasn't doing **** with his career so he's just being a hater and kicking someone while they are down.

Marquez didn't even fight Barerra till last year and lost the Pacman fights which were close but he needs to worry about his own ****. Hamed had a good career and stepped away without shame. He got beat by Barrera, had a return fight and left it at that.

 

bull****:fire

if the youngest ever british world champion who was a 5 time world champ and the only featherweight in history to unify the division "regardless of wat the wba say" does'nt get in then how the hell does barry Mcguigan ???

naz deserves to get into the hall as much as anyone he's earned it

 

Mcguigan doesn't deserve it either.

 

In my book, if you receive your first career loss and never come back, you aren't a great fighter.

 

hameds prime was when he was 22-24 if you were a fan of his and actually knew some **** you wouldve saw that his skills were slowly deteriorating over late 90's

 

I'm a fan of good boxing.

Hamed was exciting because he delivered knockouts, that however does'nt neccesarily translate to being a great fighter, which imo Hamed was far from......

.......I believe Hamed knew all along that he was lacking in real bonafide boxing skills to compete with the very best in the sport, and thus the reason why he on more than one occasion petitioned the alphabet groups to bypass his #1 mandatory.......someone by the name of Juan Manuel Marquez!:deal

The fact of the matter is that the best fighter Hamed ever beat was a glass jawed Kevin Kelley, who at the time of the KO, was getting his arse handed to him by Kelley!

Hamed was never a great fighter, and quite obviously did'nt have the stones to continue after getting thoroughly dominated by a fighter in MAB who was a true skilled champion fighting at a high level, enough said of that!

 

Great post.

I know you're a JMM fan, and I am also, but I think the reason he gave was bull****. "To be great you need to fight the best, and he never fought me". Hamed ultimately fought the best when he met Barrera, and he found out what all three of the great Mexicans of that era would have all done to him in their primes.

 

Worst Post of the Week. You are falling prey to one of the biggest and most ludicrous myths on this forum. I have studied Hamed's career in detail from 1994 til it's completion. You are very misguided and very wrong. However, I don't have time to go into detail here. Check back on the Classic pages and you will see Selfkill and I explain why on a recent Hamed thread.

However, if even if you are right (you're not, but still...), do you really think a peak of a couple of years fighting mediocre opposition should be enough to get into the Hall of Fame? No ****ing way, or we may as well throw the doors open to any short-term alphabet champ.

 

Absolutely.

Hamed was always very hittable, and all the talk of him being this elusive master when with Ingle is ludicrous. Ingle was in Hamed's corner for the Kelley fight, and although on Boxrec it reads early knockout for the Prince, Hamed was in big trouble against a really flawed Featherweight in Kelley.

If Kevin Kelley is countering Hamed, what the hell do you suppose Morales, Marquez, and Barrera are going to do. We saw what happened when he fought Barrera, a truely great fighter who instead of fading into obscuring after losing to Jones, turned himself into a better fighter. That's true greatness.

 

It appears these days the standards to get in the HOF are greatly reduced. So he'll probably get in based on other dubious entries. He defended his title, did beat some contenders, and looked good. But I pray that isn't all it takes to get in anymore. Other wise anyone who held a belt is almost eligible.

 

Hamed offered Marquez a career high payday that was rejected. Instead, Augie Sanchez filled Marquez's vacancy as the opponent.