Marquez refusing VADA or USADA testing for up and coming fight with Tim Bradley.

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  1. Desert Storm

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    Tim Bradley told ********* Radio that Marquez vs Bradley is off if the Mexican refuses to undergo performance enhancement drug testing administered by VADA or USADA.
    "My contract says VADA USADA is going to be involved. There's nowhere that says a third party is going to be involved. I spoke to (NSAC executive director) Keith Kizer earlier this week, with Marquez and everybody on the phone, and I let him know what my concerns were. "

    Bradley added, "It is nothing against the Nevada State Commission. It is one of the best commissions in the world. They have been around for years but I just want VADA and USADA involved as well."

    "At this point if they are not going to be involved there is not going to be a fight at all. Just put it that way. If this guy doesn't get drug tested at all by VADA or USADA then the fight's not going to happen."



    Looks like he spoke to Marquez himself. Where did he "hear it through the grapevine"?
     
  3. divac

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    http://www.maxboxing.com/news/sub-lead/the-bob-arum-nevada-testing-agency-is-failing


    In that article Bradley is quoted.........
    “Unless you test, you dirty to me. I don’t care what anybody say. I’m not saying Marquez is dirty. I’m just saying in general, if you don’t test, man, that’s a problem for me,” said Bradley. “I told everybody I am going to start testing everyone I got in the ring with before this fight happened. I said, ‘You know what? I would love to fight Marquez if Marquez is willing to take drug tests, then let’s make it happen.’ I made that upfront. If he is willing to agree to the drug tests, then we’ll do it. If not, then hey, scratch him and we’ll move on to the next. And he agreed to it. That’s what was told to me. After the whole promotion thing, the tour and everything, he started reneging on everything. Then I heard through the grapevine that he didn’t want to take any of the tests. That’s when my promoter got involved and [in Arum’s voice], ‘We’re going to hire an outside agency. We’re going to have a third party come in here and take care of this so both fighter’s feel comfortable because I wanted VADA and he wanted USADA.”


    The whole article is full of Bradley making assumptions.
    "He agreed to it, at least thats what was told me." :nut
    Alot of heresays!


    "After the whole promotion thing, the tour and everything, he started reneging on everything. Then I heard through the grapevine that he didn’t want to take any of the tests."

    Are you ****ing kidding me? If Marquez was reneging through the promotion tour, it would have been media news!

    Bradley it looks like to me is just confused about everything including whats in the contract.
    In a Kevin Iole article it states that the contract said USADA or VADA, and not USADA/VADA as Bradley is making it out to be.

    Quite honestly, I dont believe Bradley himself even knows whats been agreed upon, he's just making a bunch of flip statements not knowing whether to blame Marquez or Arum.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPnZZTVp_2A
     
  4. divac

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    There are no quotes from Bradley as to what Arum or Marquez had to say in that conference call.

    If they were on the phone with him in a conference call, what did Arum and Marquez have to say on the matter?

    Bradley dont know what they said, because its become very apparent he dont know **** about anything.

    If they said no to testing in the conference call, why has'nt Bradley called off the fight yet??????

    Like I said, Bradley dont know what the hell is going on. He's hearing everything through the grapevine!!!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPnZZTVp_2A
     
  5. DeadLikeMe

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    Why is ducking coward Bradley trying to avoid the fight? Clearly he doesn't want the fight with all this roadblocking. Who is he to demand Marquez take extra testing? The blood loss may weaken Marquez and Bradley is not the commission. Let the commission do their job!
     
  6. divac

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl

    Wonder what happened to all the *******s on that stance? :yep
     
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    cool thanks. Well Marquez still hasn't said anything that could clear things up which shows he is "ducking"
     
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    Bradley "don't know what's going on" and Marquez is a steroid cheat who doesn't want to come out and clear his name, fair enough.
     
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    How he is "roadblocking", it's in the contract dummy. Floyd and Manny never signed a contract stating they had to be tested by so and so, Marquez and Bradley did.
     
  10. divac

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    You're on a rant making accusations and you dont know and neither of us know any of the details.

    I allready established that it looks like Bradley is confused and does'nt really know whats in the contract.
    Do we know if it states in the contract how far out the testing is to begin?

    If Arum or Marquez said no to testing in the conference call Bradley talked about, why has'nt Bradley called off the fight?

    There just to many unknowns here for anyone to start finger pointing and making accusations.

    I think most with an unbiased view can guage that Arum is behind this and we wont really know whats really going on until he talks about the PED testing issue itself.

    Why dont you just wait DS until that happens?
    Eventually the testing will begin or it wont. Arum and Marquez will offer dialogue, and then you can give an accurate opinion as to who is avoiding what and when.
     
  11. divac

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    My guess is that Marquez is in Mexico where he always makes his training camps before and now with Angel Heredia.

    I doubt very seriously that Marquez while in Mexico is paying attention to American media outlets which most are not reporting on this issue, nor is he paying attention to our forum or any boxing forum for that matter.

    The guy does'nt have time for **** like that, he's getting fully prepared to take Bradley's title that should be his to begin with.
    I would suggest that Bradley get fully concentrated in defending that title.
     
  12. Jquik

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    Manny and Rios have both have agreed to random doping for their upcoming fight,both USADA and VADA are being used.

    Marquez v Bradley should be no different.

    Tim Bradley has already been using VADA and is on their website

    Im not the biggest Tim Bradley fan in the world but hes got a point here.

    http://www.vada-testing.org/compone...lideshow/slideshow/260-timothy-bradley-jr-260
     
  13. Jquik

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    As far as I know Arum hasnt refused testing,he just said they wont be using Vada and Usada.But Bradley states that Vada and Usada are the doping agencies written into his contract.

    I guess Bradley is just hoping that Arum will put the foot down and make Marquez take the tests,theres still enough time to start but it is getting late.Another reason why I think he hasnt pulled out is the fact that its a massive massive fight with the implications of maybe a Floyd Mayweather fight in the future and a huge pay day.Besides Marquez who else is Tim Bradley supposed to fight,with all this bull**** going on between Top Rank and Goldenboy he doesnt really have that many options at the moment.
     
  14. divac

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    Where in that link does it state he's started VADA testing for this Marquez fight?
    It does'nt!

    The link you posted I suspect was for Bradley completing VADA testing for his last fight with Provodkin, in which he looked like complete **** btw

    The page actually congratulates Bradley for completing testing, he's yet to complete testing for anyone as it relates to his upcoming fight with Marquez.

    As for Pacquiao vs Rios, Bob Arum also promotes both, so we wont really know who really is going to handle their testing will we???

    Rios btw is also an Angel Heredia fighter! :deal
     
  15. divac

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    Again JQ, there is'nt any evidence to suggest Marquez does'nt want to take the tests. Its all speculation from Tim Bradley of which I've allready proven by the links I've posted, he's confused about the whole issue.
    "Marquez agreed to it, at least thats what I was told!" :nut

    Bradley has no foundation to point the finger at Marquez, and yet he's alluding to Marquez being the one avoiding without any known facts.

    RIght about now we should be hearing from Bob Arum, but he's tied up promoting Pacquiao vs Rios and seems to care less about Bradley's concerns.

    How can you blame Marquez? He's got his own training to worry about, he's not about to get involved in making arrangements to get tested, thats Bob Arum's job!