Marquez refusing VADA or USADA testing for up and coming fight with Tim Bradley.

Man just take the tests Marquez. You're one of my favorite fighters, but if you don't take the tests, you will look suspect as hell.

 

Why has'nt Bradley then for this fight?

Again, it looks like Marquez will go with USADA as Victor Conte has ties with VADA, how many times does that have to be brought to your attention???

We're going around in circles here, enough of it.
Wait ti'll the testing is figured out and then we will see who is refusing what, at the moment we dont have a quote from Marquez himself, eventually he will be asked and we will get to read his quote.

In the meantime go watch Marquez KTFO Pacquiao!!!! :deal

 

What a load of hyperbolic bull****.:roll:

Compare Marquez's build between JMM/Pac3 and JMM/Pac4 and there is not
that much difference. Keep in mind that there was a 1 year span and JMM
was getting accustomed the Div.. Only a biased moron with an agenda would discard the possibility that a professional athlete can naturally build that physique under those circumstances.

Can Marquez be roiding? YES! ....But no more than Pac, Bradley, FLoyd, etc.

 

You have absolutely no evidence whatsoever of Marquez refusing to cooperate and it's utterly ridiculous to paint this as him stating it. And I'm sure Marquez would appear on the VADA fight if Pacquiao and Arum had taken him up on his repeated offers to be tested prior to their third and fourth fights, but those two in both cases did refuse testing.

Wow thanks for translating that obscure acronym for us. No, it is in fact Bob Arum's job to arrange testing per the terms of the contract. It's not incumbent on Marquez to pay 5-6 figures out of his own pocket for testing simply because idiots on a message board are talking rubbish, and his not doing so constitutes no evidence in favor of said idiots' accusations.

 

JQ has got to be a teenager that does'nt have a clue that there has to be order to how things develop and get solved. As purephase stated, you just dont walk into USADA or VADA headquarters and state, "test me!"
There are forms to fill out with rules, regulations and stipulations, like where are the results to be sent.
In case of a positive result who gets notified and what are the legal repercussions????? Things like that have to be sorted out by the man who's going to be in charge to pay for the testing, which is Bob Arum.

Having said that, I'm in agreeance that Arum needs to make a statement soon as to whats holding up the commencement of PED testing for Marquez vs Bradley.

 

In the article that you posted by Montoya, it says that it's vada and usada, in the contract and Arum confirms that, and as you pointed out Marquez doesn't want VADA, only USADA. Bradley wants VADA in there, so bob the builder is now creating a lab under 'using the same protocols by both agencies' which in his words are going to be just as rigorous.


The hold up seem pretty clear, that Marquez doesn't want VADA, only USADA, which is weird cause Heredia's other client Rios is going under VADA. In the article though it seem pretty clear what the holdup is and the proposed solution.

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http://www.maxboxing.com/news/max-b...ed-nevada-testing-endanger-marquez-vs-bradley

'But there is a fight going on as preparations begin that may prevent the bout from ever happening. At the press conference announcing the fight in Los Angeles, Top Rank founder Bob Arum announced he would not be honoring the contract of Bradley, who requested strict anti-doping tests be performed by the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association (VADA) and the United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA). His manager, Cameron Dunkin and wife/adviser, Monica both have confirmed in media outlets that this is true. However, Arum has decided to pay Nevada to just do it the way VADA and USADA do it.

As pointed out in the following link, it isn’t that simple:

http://www.maxboxing.com/news/max-b...ed-nevada-testing-endanger-marquez-vs-bradley

Arum’s proposal to create yet another testing organization through the Nevada commission is not going to be an easy nor timely endeavor. It’s not impossible but within the timeframe of Bradley’s contractual agreement, the Arum-Nevada Testing Agency has already failed to meet Bradley’s contracted deadline to begin testing.

Bradley’s contract called for VADA and USADA testing to begin on July 13. By the time you read this, it will be July 30. 17 days of no testing. 17 days that both fighters have trained unchecked.'

 

Again the VADA/USADA issue was resolved prior to the contract's signing, with Bradley being tested by VADA and Marquez by USADA (http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/news/story?id=1813956&s=box&type=story). Arum's alternative testing agency stemmed from his own problems about the enforceability of punishments for positive tests by either organization, not Marquez's independent objections to VADA. And it's Arum's non-existent and likely non-contractually agreed alternative alone which is the holdup for the fight, not Marquez preferring USADA to VADA.

 

Which has nothing whatosever to do with Arum not wanting to use either nor Bradley's specific complaints about no testing being conducted.

 

You know, this whole thing is a complete mess.
Marquez signed to get tested by USADA, why does'nt the American media make this clear, that Marquez is to be tested by USADA and Bradley by VADA.

That article was from May, I think what happened is that Bradley disagreed with those terms and it was then that Arum suggested that the Nevada commision get involved with the testing.

Bradley is still disagreeing.
I'm wondering now if Bradley signed a different contract than what Marquez signed and its Arum now scuffling to make it right by offering the Nevada commision solution.