Marquez v Bradley

I don't think JMM is big enough to compete with a young, prime, high quality jr. ww

 

I got JMM in this one mainly cause Bradley ain't got the left hook to beat him which is what it takes!

 

For several reasons I just can't see Marquez keeping up with Bradley. He's never faded before but there are some factors that say he is going to have trouble with Bradley. Its not simply him fading its also him keeping up with Bradley over the whole twelve rounds. I see Bradley as too young, active, fresh, and quick for an almost 37 year old, smaller, and declining Marquez.

 

This case is very similar to Marquez-Diaz.

 

Marquez is too small for 140. Period. Bradley would wipe the floor with him. He'd struggle with guys in the 10-20 range of the weight class. Lightweight is really his limit, and even there, the only reason he was able to win was because he was so damn good. Even at lightweight, it was blatantly obvious that he was still a natural super featherweight.

 

JMM is not a 140 fighter. Bradley by beatdown.

 

I see some similarities as well and in the Bradley case I see Bradley as being a weight class and a talent class above Diaz. Then Marquez would be another year older if they were to fight. At this point in his career I just can't see JMM keeping up with Bradley.

 

Exactly......Emmanuel Steward was saying it through the first several rounds that he thought Marquez was not going to keep up with the highworkrate of the fight.

.......it was even pointed out in that fight that through 6 rounds, Marquez had already exceeded his punch output for the entire Manny Pacquiao rematch.

In that JMM-Diaz matchup, who was the one that got worn down and KTFO????:yep




There is'nt a single fight to point too, that would indicate to any of us that Marquez would fade against Bradley.

Let me tell you all something.....if Bradley were to win, it certainly would have nothing to do with JMM fading.
There's no precedent to that!:deal

 

Well I don't think Marquez will be on himself again after being bloated up and lose on a one-sided fashion against Mayweather. He may lose to Bradley, but I may see a JMM win had he not agreed to fight that *ssh*le PBF.

 

JMM is unproven at 140 lbs but if he can carry the extra weight (maybe come in around 138) I think he has the skills to beat Bradley. Bradley is a good all round fighter who seems to be improving with every fight but he doesn't have great ko power and his skills are not yet on the level of Marquez. Would be a very interesting fight and I would be very surprised if it didn't go the distance. Marquez UD

 

You seem to be stuck on if Bradley were to take over the second half of the fight its because JMM isn't conditioned well enough. No one is going to doubt his conditioning or work he puts in to get in condition. I simply see Bradley as having more left as the fight goes on. JMM might be able to fight 15 rounds that night but I think Bradley will be in better shape by the end of the fight. I see his work doing more to JMM than vice versa. Throw in the size, age, and styles of the fighters than I have no problem seeing Bradley pulling ahead as the fight goes on. There is more to it than simply saying since JMM hasn't faded in a fight before then there is no way Bradley will be able to take control as the fight goes on. Simply put, I don't think JMM can keep up with Bradley and I've noted several factors that could come into play. Its probably just hypothetical because I don't think the fight comes off but if it does than Bradley should win by decision.

 

Your username disgusts me. I'll be watching you.

 

You should have worded it differently Bogart.
I think what you actually see happening is Bradley's quickness and speed troubleing a fighter in Marquez who's up there in age........
.......I dont think that would happen against Bradley, but certainly thats something that could be possible and I could understand someone viewing it that way.

I just dont agree with your premise that the fight would be close through 6 rounds and then all of a sudden Bradley would take over.......

If the fight were to be close through 6 rounds, that would mean that Marquez was holding his own against Bradley's quickness and speed. If Marquez would be doing that through the first half when fighters are fresh, thus quicker and faster than the later rounds.......

If Marquez were to be holding his own throught six, I see no reason why Marquez would all of a sudden not stand up to Bradley's speed and quickness in the latter half.

It does'nt make much sense to me. Usually a slower fighter has trouble with a faster and quicker fighter early in the fight and adjusts too it later in subsequent rounds........that and the fact that as the fight wears, the speed and quickness gap between the fighters actually narrows as the fight progresses.





If the fight were to be close through six as you've opiniated it would, if anything.....its Marquez who has the conditioning, skillset, and experience to put it all into play and beat the lesser experienced Bradley.

Nothing personal, just pointing out that I believe there is a major flaw in the sequence to which you see the fight unfolding.

 

A lot of time a slower fighter can make up the difference in speed as the fight goes unless, like I see this fight, the quicker guy is doing a better job at wearing the slower guy down then vice versa. Picture it like this, both guys are going to be operating at 100% at the start of the fight, or atleast close to the peak of their abilities. But in any fight, especially 12 hard fought rounds, a fighter isn't operating at 100% anymore. He may be at 85%, 70% or whatever the case might be. And in this case I see Bradley still closer to his peak condition then JMM as the fight goes on. Thats not saying JMM will be fading just Bradley has more left and a lot of that will be due to the size and age factors. Then, if Bradley is fighting at a higher rate then JMM, even if its a little, then the speed and athleticism difference will be even more pronounced. If it played out that way then Bradley would do better in the later rounds than earlier ones. That might make my version a bit more clear.

 

It does'nt make an ounce of sense to me, but I'll agree to disagree.