Marquez v Calzaghe?!?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by D-MAC, Mar 6, 2009.


  1. D-MAC

    D-MAC Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This is if Calzaghe was still active, but hadn't fought since his fight with Roy.

    Hypothetical, I know.

    Taking into account that Juan Manuel Marquez fought and beat both Joel Casamayor and Juan Diaz, either side of Calzaghe beating up the corpse of Roy Jones, would you say that Calzaghe would still be ranked P-4-P no.2 in the world?

    I know some of you might have had JMM above him anyway, and others might have had him no.1 based on your "personal opinion" that he beat Pacquiao in their second fight (or maybe even in both bouts). But I'm looking for posters that had a similar outlook to myself at the time of Calzaghe's retirement; ie: (1) Pac (2) Joe C, and (3) JMM.

    Would the fact that Marquez had jumped up a division and stopped two highly ranked operators who had never been stopped before, and in a division that was pretty stacked, move him above Calzaghe into 2nd spot?

    Calzaghe fought Jones on 8/11/08, which given his activity in the last couple of years would make it perfectly feasible that he would not have fought again by this point in time.

    Also, take into account that Casamayor had never been decisively beaten before, taking big LW punchers Castillo, Corrales and Freitas to tight disbutable decisions.

    In addition, Hopkins fooled with Pavlik after JMM had beaten Casamayor, which would have brought up Calzaghe's stock.

    Basically, after weighing up the evidence, would JMM still be no. 2 P-4-P if Joe Calzaghe was currently active?

    Give me your 1,2 and 3, with Calzaghe still active in the mix:think
     
  2. dwilson

    dwilson Guest

    Calzaghe would be a potential top 7 or 8.
     
  3. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    I had Joe no2 & JMM no3 before Joe retired but Marquez is as close to being joint top with Pacman as you can get at the moment tho I still have Pac slightly, very slightly in front.

    Calzaghe would have to beat Hopkins or Dawson convincingly to top JMM at the moment IMO.

    Pac-JMM III must happen whether Pac wins or loses vs Hatton.
     
  4. thesham01

    thesham01 Undisputed Champion Full Member

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    JMM easily! Calzaghe is great, but Marquez has nearly done it all and looked good in the process.....
     
  5. stuey

    stuey Never bet on England Full Member

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    i have had JMM at 1/2 in my p4p list for a while, i thought he beat pacman twice.
     
  6. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    Calzaghe should have never been ranked above JMM, IMO.
     
  7. mike464

    mike464 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Marquez was number 2 before he beat up Diaz so Marquez would still be number 2.