This is if Calzaghe was still active, but hadn't fought since his fight with Roy. Hypothetical, I know. Taking into account that Juan Manuel Marquez fought and beat both Joel Casamayor and Juan Diaz, either side of Calzaghe beating up the corpse of Roy Jones, would you say that Calzaghe would still be ranked P-4-P no.2 in the world? I know some of you might have had JMM above him anyway, and others might have had him no.1 based on your "personal opinion" that he beat Pacquiao in their second fight (or maybe even in both bouts). But I'm looking for posters that had a similar outlook to myself at the time of Calzaghe's retirement; ie: (1) Pac (2) Joe C, and (3) JMM. Would the fact that Marquez had jumped up a division and stopped two highly ranked operators who had never been stopped before, and in a division that was pretty stacked, move him above Calzaghe into 2nd spot? Calzaghe fought Jones on 8/11/08, which given his activity in the last couple of years would make it perfectly feasible that he would not have fought again by this point in time. Also, take into account that Casamayor had never been decisively beaten before, taking big LW punchers Castillo, Corrales and Freitas to tight disbutable decisions. In addition, Hopkins fooled with Pavlik after JMM had beaten Casamayor, which would have brought up Calzaghe's stock. Basically, after weighing up the evidence, would JMM still be no. 2 P-4-P if Joe Calzaghe was currently active? Give me your 1,2 and 3, with Calzaghe still active in the mix:think
I had Joe no2 & JMM no3 before Joe retired but Marquez is as close to being joint top with Pacman as you can get at the moment tho I still have Pac slightly, very slightly in front. Calzaghe would have to beat Hopkins or Dawson convincingly to top JMM at the moment IMO. Pac-JMM III must happen whether Pac wins or loses vs Hatton.
JMM easily! Calzaghe is great, but Marquez has nearly done it all and looked good in the process.....