Marquez-Vasquez II, Round 5 - Knockdown or slip?

Buddy, there is absolutely no way in hell that was a knockdown punch, even with Izzy having already started losing his balance.

 

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Seriously, what are you watching?? You can see Vasquez's head jerk back from the punch. The left was short and he didn't see it, it clearly was a knockdown, Vasquez lost his equilibrium. It's not that hard to see.

 

Clear as day - it was a slip. Marquez didn't land a punch.

 

Hmm. Marquez lands the hook, but then Vasquez immediately fires back with a jab, and his leg slips forward; a reaction that usually isn't caused by a punch (usually the knees buckle- and that didn't happen in this case.) Since IV's reaction doesn't seem to be a direct result of a punch, I'd be inclined to say that calling it a slip isn't that bad of a call.

 

I still think it's a slip since the punch didn't cause the knockdown. You can see he plants his left foot then he slips dodging Marquez's right.

 

It's a moot point now, onward to Episode III.

 

Just rewatched the fight, replayed the slow-motion angles several times. The punch was a contributing factor but not the driving force of his fall. His head didn't jerk back, his face got pushed to one side momentarily same as any hook that lands clean and an instant later he was facing straight forward and throwing punches without setting his already splayed feet, which then kicked out from under him. Way too delayed a reaction to blame on the punch alone and there was too much other movement, too many other variables to say that the slip would not have occured sans the punch. We'll never know. Only Izzy knows how much force that punch had, he didn't appear to react like he thuoght he was getting away with anything and Rafael didn't seem miffed at the call.

 

I wish they would stop putting those ****ing shiny logos on the mat

it interferred alot with the cabrello fight too

 

The worst of it is that they were advertising their shitty newjack MMA bull**** in a sweet science ring. :twisted:

 

Slip.

I swore it was a knockdown at first but the birdseye view confirmed that Marquez's right did not land.

 

Dude, thats clearly a slip....

After that left hook to the shoulder, they continued fighting....it clearly wasnt caused by the left....your dilusional...

....and plus, if its a foot slip, even if there is a punch (that didnt score btw) its still considered a slip by the rules....

 

obviously a slip

 

He slipped on the logo, just like five other fighters did during the card. The punch where he fell down didn't even touch him.

 

CLEARLY a knockdown, I don't understand how anyone would consider that a slip. Marquez connected right on the chin and he went down, nothing embarrassing there.

 

Your joking right scar???