Marquez vs Diaz weigh in Photos

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by psychopath, Feb 27, 2009.


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  1. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'm clueless as to what your point is here in this post.

    .....go back and read our prior posts, my points have been that Diaz can be slowed to the body, and a fight as recently as Nate Campbell's is a fine example.....
    I dont know what the point you're trying to make!

    I'm following and responding to the points you've made and tried to pick them apart......
    You believe that Diaz lost due to a cut......I believe and you've admitted to, that Campbell was already whooping Diaz.......and I say it was the body punishment that had Diaz throwing steamless punches to cross the finish line.


    You're somehow trying to turn our exchanges to something irrelevlant of what we've been debating about.
     
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  2. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Well . . . you are clueless right from the start. :yep

    That guy was insinuating that Diaz' body is weak because of that "baby fat" I jokingly mentioned . . . so I said Diaz received a lot of body bombs from Nate and he withstood it. Then you came into the picture . . . blah . . . blah . . . blah.

    I'll say it again (this is what's in my head when I replied to the guy)) . . . it's more logical to believe that JMM will stop Diaz by counter punching while Diaz is trying to come in close . . . rather than Stopping Diaz on body punches . . . because JMM won't fight Diaz the way Nate did.

    I didn't say Diaz lost due to the cut . . . it bothered him more than the body punches.

    Now it's clear that your Blah blah blah is irrelevant. I'm not discussing anything with you in the first place . . . you just came into the picture. :deal

    :lol: :rofl
     
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  3. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Then JMM wins this. :lol:
     
    psychopath, Feb 27, 2009
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  4. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    :tong

    Go find somebody else to do your trolling duties against!:D:hi:
     
    divac, Feb 27, 2009
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  5. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Yeah cool reply :yep . . . you look like a complete ****** in that argurment.

    After humilating you . . . I'm trolling.

    :rofl :lol: :rofl :lol: :rofl :lol: :rofl :lol:

    Next time think twice before jumping in. :hi: :good
     
    psychopath, Feb 27, 2009
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  6. 4Rounder

    4Rounder Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think you are the one missing the clues here Psychopath.

    "I'll say it again (this is what's in my head when I replied to the guy)) . . . it's more logical to believe that JMM will stop Diaz by counter punching while Diaz is trying to come in close . . . rather than Stopping Diaz on body punches . . . because JMM won't fight Diaz the way Nate did."

    How does this work? :lol:
    You claim it is logical JMM will stop JD by counter-punching rather than body shots. Counter-punching is not limited to head shots my friend. JMM will be digging the body hard at every opportunity like with any other of his past opponents. Diaz's softer body is more vulnerable to body shots and they will affect him in the long run.

    Divac is correct in saying that Campbell was able to slow down Diaz by working the body. Before that fight Diaz was running over his opponents down the stretch because they were not effective enough with their punches.

    Campbell beat Diaz with a combination of these factors by working the body, matching volume with volume, taking away the spaces, and taking advantage of the cut. And of course JMM will not fight just like Campbell, but it is clear that one of the first steps JMM will take is to slow down Diaz.
     
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  7. Toopretty

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    Diaz body looks soft.....but he is no softer than any other fighter to the body.
     
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  8. 4Rounder

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    What would make you think that?

    Julio Diaz and Freitas weren't able to work the body enough and Katsidis was plained outclassed in the boxing department. Campbell re-assured us its the way to slow down a speedy guy.

    But ok, lets just say for the sake of finishing this argument that Diaz has a rock solid six pack under his beer belly.......he is still going to slow down with all the mean hooks he could get hit with.
     
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  9. psychopath

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    Yeah yeah . . .I'm not claiming counter punching is limited to head punching . . . what I'm saying is . . . JMM is most likely to stop Diaz by countering in the head while coming in. See the difference?

    Well yeah Nate was able to slow down Juan . . . but he wasn't able to force Juan to surrender . . . did he?

    JMM can do what ever he wants to slow down Diaz . . . I don't have problem with that but take note JMM is mortal just like Juan and fighting a close in battle with Diaz could be a mistake because that's Diaz' bread and butter . . . he could also get hurt. Diaz will force a inside battle and JMM will avoid it . . . that's how I see it.

    Now don't jump to the aide of your friend Divac . . . he was completely bitchslapped on this. :lol:
     
    psychopath, Feb 27, 2009
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  10. AW0L

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    JMM for the win on points
     
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  11. gottagivafight

    gottagivafight When you least expect it, expect it!!! banned Full Member

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    He is one vain mofo.
     
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  12. 4Rounder

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    Then with this post I am sure there was nothing to discuss, and you and Divac and I pretty agree on the same key points but you decided to run with the argument after taking offense on being called a Pac fan. Chill man.
     
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  13. Silvermags

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    ...bottom my my friend is that JMM will win this one.I'll be surprised if Juan Diaz will win this one....
     
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  14. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Did I run with the arguement? Ah . . . ah . . . NO.:nono

    Divac is quick to jump on me . . . without understanding what I meant with that post . . . and he tried to drag the discussion somewhere else by mentioning Pac and me as his fan . . . I dragged it back to the point of arguement . . . until it ended as me being a troll. :lol:

    That was pathetic! :rofl

    I have no quarrel with you or Divac . . . this is just plain exchanges of opinions. :good
     
    psychopath, Feb 27, 2009
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  15. Toopretty

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