Marquez vs Mayweather could be a repeat of Chavez vs Taylor I!!!

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  1. Knives7

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    Mayweather will never brawl unless it's necessary.
     
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  2. Knives7

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    First of all, just because Mayweather said that he will be focusing on his offense doesn't mean that he will neglect his defense. He said that he will try to improve his offense because he believe that his defense is impeneratable. His exact words were "My defense has always been tight". lol

    Second, Mayweather and Pacquiao will big. Possibly bigger than Pac-Hatton, Pac-Hoya, Mayweather-Hoya, and Mayweather-Hatton. If the rumors are true. Mayweather-Marquez tickets are not selling well, but we wouldn't know until the fight starts.
     
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  3. Asterion

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    JMM can't punish like JCC.
     
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  4. Thread Stealer

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    Mayweather has brawled on several ocassions.

    Marquez is not an A+ technical pressure fighter like Chavez was. He's best off when countering.
     
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  5. Danny_Rand

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    Chavez and Marquez fight nothing alike. And Mayweather is nothing like Meldrick Taylor.
     
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  6. ricardinho

    ricardinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I never said the fighters were alike. I was simply stating that Marquez may be dominated throughout the fight and pull off an upset ko. Taylor probably was one of the most athletically talented boxers of all time--not the best overall. With his superior skills and hand speed he was clearly beating Chavez. Although, Taylor was the more active fighter the reality was his punches did nothing to hurt Chavez; conversely, each punch that Chavez threw had more impact than five punches from Taylor.

    PBF has stated he will be more offensively oriented. To do so would mean he would focus more on initiating an attack. Juan Ma is amongst the best at countering. Furthermore, Juan Ma will force PBF to fight all 12 rounds-we all know PBF fades in the middle of a fight. So I wonder how will an old yet rested (rusted) PBF deal with someone that will engage him and force him to fight until the final bell? I would conjecture that PBF will suffer steady body attack.

    Marquez has shown he always has an answer for every problem in the ring. He had an answer for Pac Twice, Diaz, and Casamayor. There is no way that PBF can outperform PAC's offense, Diaz' volume! Don't neglect the fact that in both fights Pac had to dig deep for his best against Marquez. So dont tell me that PBF is going to kill him when PAC the P4p #1 fighter could not stop him. Marquez can take weight...he did so with PAC and Diaz.

    Marquez looks good and focused. When the fight got canceled Marquez rested for about a week and went back at it. It gave him time to prepare. Less than one month out he says he is content with his power and instead will focus on speed.

    I have always favored Marquez! Roberto Duran himself has stated that Marquez will pull off the upset. Now the question I ask of the Pretty Boy Posse is how will you cope with a Marquez Victory? I hear if from you guys all the time how we will have to respect PBF if he wins. If PBF and his team cant envision this then I would say they are underestimating their opponent and will be in for a big surpise in September.
     
    ricardinho, Aug 16, 2009
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  7. dan-b

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    I'd love to see JMM knock out the scum but I can't see it.
     
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  8. ricardinho

    ricardinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I believe it will happen....

    [YT/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2jmTBUdFpo/YT]
     
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  9. Thread Stealer

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    Umm no, I think you're the only one who thinks that.

    Everyone else sees Mayweather as a guy who figures out/adapts to his opponent by the mid rounds and establishes control by then, if he hasn't already.

    Castillo 1 is pretty much the only fight of note in which Mayweather didn't do well in the 2nd half.
     
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  10. ricardinho

    ricardinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    and when Castillo fought him he was not even given a chance to win right?
     
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  11. Thread Stealer

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    He didn't have to brawl against Ndou, Augustus, Carlos Hernandez (early rounds), Corley, etc.. He might brawl when he's not too concerned about the other guy's power (even if Ndou had a high KO rate) or in the cases with Ndou and Hernandez, was in his hometown and didn't want to bore them.
     
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  12. ricardinho

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    So you would agree that Castillo was not given a chance in the fight?
     
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  13. Thread Stealer

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    The decision on that one has been long debated and you can find long, long threads on that. Castillo did too little in the first 5 rounds so I didn't have too much of a problem with the decision. But that's besides the topic.

    I'm talking about your claim that "everyone knows Mayweather fades in the middle of a fight".

    The middle of a fight is when he usually establishes control and takes over, if he hasn't already.
     
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  14. elchivito

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    so just because someone picks jmm to beat floyd the floyderettes don't want no one to say jmm is too small now. :rofl ***** pleez! he hasn't even fought at 147! fake :bart
     
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  15. ricardinho

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    he Boxing Bulletin Official Scorecard

    R1: Mayweather
    R2: Mayweather
    R3: Mayweather
    R4: Castillo
    R5: Even
    R6: Castillo
    R7: Castillo
    R8: Mayweather
    R9: Castillo
    R10: Even
    R11: Castillo
    R12: Castillo

    Overall, we scored it 6-4-2 for Castillo. Round 10, would have been a Floyd round except for the point deduction.

    Our average scores added up to 114.6-112.4 for Castillo.

    Castillo had the unanimous edge in 3 rounds on our cards - 6, 7 & 12 - along with a 4/5ths share of round 9. Mayweather only swept the 1st round, while also having a 4/5th's edge in the 2nd.

    There were 6 rounds where neither man had more than 60% majority, with the most contentious frame being the 5th where we split 2-2-1 on the winner.

    Did you think the judges had it right, or did you agree with our take? Give us yor thoughts on the fight and decision.
     
    ricardinho, Aug 16, 2009
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