Martial arts punches generally involve much less force than those in boxing.

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Martial arts punches generally involve much less force than those in boxing. A study of 12 karate black belts showed so-called reverse punches delivered an average force of 325 pounds, with the strongest measuring 412 pounds. Short-range power punches averaged 178 pounds. Another study found martial artists needed 687 pounds of force to break a concrete slab 1.5 inches thick. One early researcher estimated karate strikes could reach 1,500 pounds, but that figure was an outlier.
    Do boxers usually punch harder than MMA fighters?
     
  2. nogibjjgear0

    nogibjjgear0 New Member Full Member

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    Boxers are 10 – 35% better in punching. If you’re comparing punches on a heavy bag, boxers and MMA will be about the same with a small but clear edge for boxers.
     
  3. Suspect.chin

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    Tony Ferguson reckons he hits harder than canelo.
     
  4. mark ant

    mark ant Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You`ve obviously never seen Mike Tyson punch a heavybag then.
     
  5. Heisenberg

    Heisenberg Well-Known Member Full Member

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    As the vast majority of Karate black belts only punch fresh air in their training I’m not surprised.
     
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  6. mark ant

    mark ant Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You make a great point but MMA fighters do pad work and sometimes use the heavybag. Conor looked okay on the heavybag and uses a lot of karate in his fights.
     
  7. Heisenberg

    Heisenberg Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It’s interesting, MMA gloves dramatically alter how fighters punch. Boxing gloves give far more surface area and allow punchers to be less accurate. I hit a bag way harder in boxing gloves than I do in MMA ones or bare knuckle.
     
  8. BCS8

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    Usually?

    Yes. That's what boxers do.

    Always?

    No.

    Guys like Vovchanchyn, Fedor and Henderson hit about as hard as anybody at their weight.

    An unusual punch that I've never seen in boxing is the Russian casting punch, a tremendously hard punch that not only destroys whatever it touches but also the fists of the puncher.
     
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  9. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Boxers are much bigger punchers.

    Comparing the power of Woodley to say Beterbiev would likely show a massive difference.

    Boxing has more depth than MMA due to having more competitors.
     
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  10. mark ant

    mark ant Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree that boxers punch harder but MMA has more depth and skill, the top 15 MMA fighters comprise of more quality combat sportsman than the top 15 boxers, the top 5 boxes can match the top 5 MMA fighters but boxing has more depth historically and loads of legends through the years, that the UFC cannot compete with.
     
  11. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    I think MMA has more versatility, kicks, takedowns, wrestling etc

    But there are far more pro boxers than MMA fighters, hence more competition in boxing.
     
  12. mark ant

    mark ant Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes but UFC undercards are far stronger than under cards in boxing when there`s a world title fight.
     
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  13. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    I think thats a financial thing. UFC can afford to put together big cards with strong undercards, because they underpay fighters.

    Boxing undercards don't feature such quality fighters because those quality fighters would rather fight on other cards where they can make more money
     
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    DONT B SCARED Pimpin Aint Easy Full Member

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    While most boxers have better technique obviously with punchers being the only striking skill they use and practice but what you said about boxers having more power is not true at all.
    Where did you get that info?
     
  15. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Just my opinion. I understand its subjective.

    I personally have never seen a UFC heavyweight with the power of a Tyson or Lewis. Frankly, i would make it illegal for prime Tyson or Lewis to wear 4 oz gloves.
     


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