Martin Bakole vs George Foreman

Lol if anyone thinks Bakole beats Foreman does that mean Hunter beat Ali!

Bakole has two notable wins, Yoka and Anderson, both were hype jobs and not even gatekeeper level. Bakole is big and powerful, with a solid jab but the fight with Hunter showed he's far from unbeatable. Give him some movement, out work him and smother him when he gets too close and he's suddenly beatable.

 

Yep.

I've taken to calling it hypejobs law and it's amazing how often it seems to happen...

"Beat a hypejob, become a hypejob"

 

Also speaks volumes the two nutjob Tyson Fury trolls in this thread are going along with the hype train.

They're probably the same people who believed the Joe Joyce hype and thought he'd beat a prime Mike Tyson and was the next coming of George Foreman.

 

TBF I'd put 42 year old Takam above both... For starters, he also beat Yoka (at that age) and is a well established gatekeeper.

Yoka might be a gatekeeper, but a low level one at that.

Anderson is still a prospect and hasn't proven to be at gatekeeper level yet, IMHO.


I can't, personally, put Bakole above a solid gatekeeper level just yet - he has the potential to take over the mantle from Chisora as "the" gatekeeper of the division (if he's not able to have success at a higher level).

 

I'll catch some **** for this, but anyway...

Hot take - it comes with the territory, you have to buy hype narratives to have been on the Fury train all along.

You had to buy overhype to see Fury as a demigod for stinking out Wlad, retiring in a blaze of illicit substances and still coming back as a top contender.

You had to buy hype narratives to rate Wilder highly enough to hang Fury's resume on post return.


Yes, Fury did pretty well with Usyk, but he also sat on the fight waiting for Usyk to age - on the assumption (probably correct) that age would decline Usyk more than Fury...



In the interest of balance.

Yes, Fury's good, real good, but he's not a goat level fighter, he's not a H2H nightmare for the likes of Lewis and he's probably not #2 in the division - and might not ever have been better than Joshua during the Usyk era (notice how hard certain people try to bash Joshua and you'll see what I mean).

 

People on this forum think Gene Tunney, Jack Johnson or Joe Louis could beat Bakole...or even Foreman.

It's like the physical differences of 50 years is not relevant. It is.

 

C'mon man

 

Make it a greener or aged (post-Morrison) Foreman. If the thread implies anything resembling a prime Foreman with Archie Moore and Sandy Saddler in his corner, then Bakole just doesn't make it, though his sheer physical attributes would make it entertaining.

As of now I would bet on Lyle beating Bakole, let alone Big George.

 

This crap has been disproven many times.

 

What crap that size actually matters? and Foreman was so "scary" because he levelled bobbing weaving 5'4" 190 pound Frazier? Foreman was seen as a monster...then Ali popped him about when tired and chinned him. Bakole is 280 pounds of Congolesian Cookies. He'd demolish "little" George. No big gorge foreman in that matchup.

 

Is that why Fury beat the smaller Usyk, oh no wait that didn't happen lol.

Size helps especially if you know how to use it but in the end skills and ring IQ can trump size.

Bakole himself lost to the much smaller Hunter.

 

Bakole hasn't done anything yet. Old ass Foreman went 12 with Shannon Briggs and most think he won. Briggs wasn't great but neither is Bakole, and Briggs was bigger than George (not fatter) and could punch very hard.

 

Good point about Hunter. Forgot to mention that.

 

Fair point.

 

Having seen the man in person last night, I can tell you with complete certainty that the 280 pounder basically walks Foreman down and destroys him, leaving him in adefenseless heap on the canvas. Foreman would have no way of escaping those uppercuts.