Martinez underestimated Cotto's skills?

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  1. timurgepard

    timurgepard Member Full Member

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    He was very vocal of how he will beat Cotto.

    But Cotto being smaller was more agile and faster for Martinez. Martinez have better chance against same size boxers or bigger. Martinez vs Felix Sturm would be EPIC. Do yo agree?

    Both have recent losses. And both has nothing to lose.
     
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  2. modernfonzie

    modernfonzie Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  3. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Cotto would have been destroyed maybe beaten to death by a prime Martinez. Cotto got lucky with an obviously crippled Maravilla.
     
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  4. killerD

    killerD Boxing Addict Full Member

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    NO Martinez was just shot old and coming off a one year layoff due to multiple major knee surgeries which he never recovered from.cotto only fought Martinez until after Martinez had the serious knee problems was old and starting to fade cotto gets no credit for that ***** move.whats the point of Martinez vs sturm they both are old and past their primes it makes no sense.Martinez knocks out sturm prime vs prime
     
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  5. timurgepard

    timurgepard Member Full Member

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    You know if you have health issues you should not be SO sure that you can beat someone. People basically boo'ed him because of his trash talk not is loss.
     
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  6. killerD

    killerD Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Exactly cotto wanted no part of a prime Sergio Martinez remember Martinez had been calling out cotto for years cotto ducked him.all of sudden Martinez gets hurt and needs surgery and now cotto is like hey let's fight.cotto is a punk ass *****.cotto gets no credit like larry holmes vs ali holmes never got credit.
     
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  7. killerD

    killerD Boxing Addict Full Member

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    your right maybe Martinez was trying to psych himself up considering he was coming off a 1 year layoff and didn't know how his knee would hold up.
     
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  8. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    underestimated his knee problems*
     
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  9. EJDiaZ

    EJDiaZ Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i think he underestimated Cotto's power LOL
    He knew Cotto had the skills but didn't think Cotto can hurt him
     
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  10. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Martinez is completely shot, Cotto seized the opportunity and beat him before anyone else got the chance. Not much more to it than that.
     
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  11. Thread Stealer

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    Martinez was always overrated. It was crazy how people put him in the Floyd/Manny category.

    Those two are ATGs, Serg was a good fighter in a poor era/division. He would have beaten Cotto if he were 3-4 years younger, but that is a case where size would play a big difference.

    Cotto was a better fighter p4p and had more skills than Martinez.
     
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  12. Tancred

    Tancred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Maybe he might of underestimated cotto a little but the fact he has no legs was clearly the biggest factor in this fight
     
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  13. MoJoGoodie

    MoJoGoodie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    knee problems fukk your head up when competing because you worry about it and sort of try and cater to it.....i wouldnt doubt if he had his knee on his mind in that fight.
     
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  14. Capitan

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    He also had his ass on the canvass!!!

    I guess you armchair quarterbacks know more than Sergio and his team!!!
     
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  15. MoJoGoodie

    MoJoGoodie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    jesus...so aggressive.

    I did not say anything was hurting him....but it is a fact that even when healthy when comming off knee surgery like his that you are a bit cautious instinctively....it takes a little while to get that confidence back in your knee.....
     
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