Marvellous Marvin Hagler Vs James Toney at Middleweight/Super Middleweight?

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Hagler Vs Toney?

  1. Marvellous Marvin Hagler unequivocally.

    25 vote(s)
  2. James Toney unanimously.

    6 vote(s)
  3. Split Decision.

    1 vote(s)
  4. Draw.

    0 vote(s)
  5. I think we're going to need a rematch and a rubbermatch to settle this.

    7 vote(s)
  6. You what? this thread is inane how could you match these two!

    1 vote(s)
  1. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Jul 17, 2009
    This. It would be a tricky fight for him but Marvin would win this one by decision by something like 7 - 5 in rounds.
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  2. Pugguy

    Pugguy Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Aug 22, 2021
    I have to assume that Marvin kept it orthodox in these films without indulging in the folly of any switch hitting. I recall one of his earliest acting efforts was in Boogaloo Nights 1 - a performance he preferred to forget due to bad reviews that he felt were grossly unjust. He got another shot in the sequel and blew everyone away with a classic money shot. A p-star was born.
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  3. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member Full Member

    Apr 27, 2005
    Don't forget he also co-starred with a decent group of others around that time too - "Peachy" Davis, "Sugar" Ray Seales, "Willie" "The Worm", Jesse "Bender", Lamont Lovelady and last but not least "Cyclone" Hart.
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  4. Roughhouse

    Roughhouse Active Member Full Member

    Sep 15, 2012
    Be serious, Toney would be a punching bag for prime Hagler. Didn't punch hard enough to keep him off and didn't move well enough to outbix him.

    I'm not sure I'd have bet money on Toney in a rematch with Tiberi.
  5. Pugguy

    Pugguy Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Aug 22, 2021
    Lol, “Willie” “The Worm” HAS to be the winner amongst that lot - paydays being even worse back then, “moonlight” work was a must.

    So many boxers having already shot their load just hours before fighting - a different and tougher breed back then.

    Rumour has it that just hours prior to facing Leonard, Hagler’s other work “schedule” was changed at the last minute (was savvy Ray involved?) forcing Hags to perform back to back “shoots” - (far more perilous than same day weigh ins) no one wonder Marv lacked due aggression and tired so badly during the fight.
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  6. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

    Aug 26, 2020
    Despite the depths of depravity that this has descended to, I shall never-the-less contribute my two veg - err, cents!

    I agree with everyone that says Marvin at 160. It would be a really interesting mix of styles that has "decision" written all over it. Toney, to my mind, had the skills to give the Marvelous One all kinds of problems and it wouldn't be too much of a shock if he pulled it off. But when picturing the fight, I can definitely see Hagler's work-rate & mobility being the key factors, along with enough pop to discourage James from getting too brave. Hagler would be frustrated at times with James' rhythm & defensive quirkiness.

    Hagler by close but clear UD over Toney in a great fight! :boxing1
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  7. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

    Aug 26, 2020
    Oh and at 168, no idea lol. I think Hagler was great enough to come in at 160 and still win.
  8. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Jul 14, 2009
    no. watch Hagler - Duran