Marvelous Marvin Hagler Vs Roy Jones jr

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  1. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Im going with Roy Jones, I honestly think he would be too fast for Hagler & with his slight size advantage, would not get bulled by Hagler either.
    I feel Roy has the movement, smarts & speed to get a close but clear verdict, about 8-4/7-5.

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  2. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Roy could use his speed to out point Hagler. Marvin always has a chance for the KO. But prime Jones rarely got hit and he wont take any chances with Marv.


    RJ UD.
     
  3. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Similar to the Leonard fight but Jones could do this to a prime Hagler and his punches and strength would be more effective at keeping Hagler off than the welterweight Leonard. Jones would sweep the early rounds, Hagler would start to have successes at pressuring Jones as the fight went on but not enough of them. Jones would tee off on Hagler throughout the fight with lead left hooks, lead rights and those flashy combinations he threw in his prime. For the most part Jones would be looking to get in and out and counter Hagler, not being too aggressive. Hagler would look to time and get to mid range to pressure Jones but would be largely frustrated by Jones beating him to the punch and moving back out of range

    Jones UD 10-5
     
  4. ironchamp

    ironchamp Boxing Addict Full Member

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    At 160?

    I don't see anyone stopping Jones. Not even Monzon.
    Jones had a pretty decent beard.

    RJ UD.
     
  5. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    After much thought, years of thought actually, Im pretty sure Roy Jones had the fastest hands in history (filmed history), Mel Taylor & prime Ali ran him close but Roy had tremendous power also in a p4p sense also.
    I think even a prime Hagler fighting the perfect fight is gonna find it incredibly hard to stay with Jones on a good Jones night.
    Hagler wasnt no slouch in his prime but the speed difference is a major key here & its a key that is held firmly by Roy Jones jr.
     
  6. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I was commenting on Marvins ability to get KOs rather than Jones' chin.

    RJ UD.
     
  7. Manassa

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    Has everybody forgotten what Hagler looked like in his prime?

    Leonard fight my arse. It was like Holmes-Spinks, but worse.

    Now, Jones was very, very good. Blazing speed, stinging power and feline athleticism, but come on. There are certain technical aspects of his game that were lacking and Hagler would crack him one right on the jaw as punishment.

    Hagler was quick back in the day and worked extremely hard. If he fought like he did against Fulgencio Obelmejias, which is likely, then Hagler would get Jones out by about round ten.

    Of course, he'd get hit a few times and be made to look slow in comparison, but it's the kind of grinding assault that Hagler brought to the table which is needed to beat Jones.
     
  8. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    What about Jones in his? Hagler would have a really hard time chasing down Jones at middleweight. Just too fast, and punched pretty good as well. He wasnt a combination slapper.
     
  9. Boro chris

    Boro chris Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hagler would grind out a contraversial sd.
     
  10. DINAMITA

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    Hagler would take a decision about 8-4/10-5.

    Jones had the speed, but when Hagler was prime he was no slouch. If he used his jab effectively and aggressively, I think he would definitely pound out a points win. Hagler was just a better middleweight all in all. I don't think Jones peaked until he was at supermiddle.
     
  11. Manassa

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    Who said he was?

    Everybody knows what Jones was like in his prime, you can't escape it.

    Too many people remember Hagler for the last two years of his career.
     
  12. junior-soprano

    junior-soprano Active Member Full Member

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    i will go with hagler. i like jones a lot. but i think a prime hagler isn't all that slower then jones, a bit but not much. and marvin had much more power in his punches
     
  13. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    I dont hink Marv`s speed was close to Jones speed & Im sure Jones had more power too.
     
  14. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Well Ray kind of blinded guys with speedy little combinations but they werent that effective. Jones usually picked his spots and loaded up on really nice uppercuts or straight rights. This usually kept his opponents from setting a fast pressured pace because they were getting nailed really good coming in. Once Jones established the pace he could move forward a little more.
    I always felt that the way to beat Jones was to make him lead from the start and try and counter him, because anyone who came forward would get picked apart. Thats exactly what Montell Griffen and Tarver (two decent counterpunchers) did to Jones to have a little success.