Marvelous Marvin Hagler

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  1. jaysuperman27

    jaysuperman27 Superman Full Member

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    Taking a cue from another thread, IM JUST WONDERING , AS GREAT AS HE IS ,WHY DIDNT HE MOVED UP IN WEIGHT? Was there already a 168 division then? Serious question? your answers would be well appreciated. Thanks!
     
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  2. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    the 168lb division came about at the end of haglers reign, he was also a short fighter, I dont think he wouldve carried an extra 15lbs well.

    Also it took him ages to get his title at middleweight, why give it up, if the biggest paydays are Heanrs, Leonard and Duran...?
     
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  3. jaysuperman27

    jaysuperman27 Superman Full Member

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    Your answer makes sense to me bro...I heard he had his title shot when his record was in 30 plus
     
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  4. ninebar

    ninebar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    IBF 168 first fought in 1984, Murray Sutherland defeated Ernie Singletary.
    WBA 168 first fought in 1987, Chong Pal Park defeated Jesus Gallardo.
    WBC 168 first fought in 1988, Sugar Ray Leonard defeated Donny Lalonde
     
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  5. jaysuperman27

    jaysuperman27 Superman Full Member

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    Thanks! I was only aware of the SRL/Lalonde fight at 168/175
     
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  6. FlatNose

    FlatNose Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes the big fights for Marvin were from Duran, Hearns and Leaonard. No one interesting at 168 at the time. There was the possibility of a fight with Michael Spinks, but it wasn't really sparking the interest that Ray, Tommy and Roberto were.
     
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  7. Clearly Cool

    Clearly Cool Active Member Full Member

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    Being the dominant boxer in a division for an extended period of time is equally impressive (maybe even more impressive) than jumping up in weight.

    It is vastly overrated this weight jumping.
     
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  8. srb31079

    srb31079 themarvelmarv Full Member

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    Hagler was a rarity in more ways than one.
     
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  9. Suge Green

    Suge Green Boxing Junkie banned

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    Hagler faced all commers, and didn't feel the need to cherrypick all of his nearby weight classes.

    He was a true champion....and his legacy reflects it.
     
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  10. PaddyD1983

    PaddyD1983 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Moving around the weight classes is not always a route to greatness. As the best middleweight of all time, he had no reason to go anywhere.
     
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  11. Mookhound

    Mookhound Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :good:good:good:good:good
     
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  12. Mookhound

    Mookhound Well-Known Member Full Member

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    and again...

    :good:good:good:good:good
     
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  13. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Agreed 100%! Too much emphasis is placed on changing classes.
     
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  14. johnny5

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    Legend
     
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  15. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah. What welterweight beats ANY version of Bernard Hopkins or Monzon or even gives them trouble?




    That's what I thought.
     
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