Marvelous Marvin - was he ruined by John 'The Beast' Mugabi?

Clinton · Nov 5, 2022

Boxed Ears said: ↑

Well, it's *a* post. I think we can all agree on that.

...No one out here has been able to debunk it...I think that should give you some pause, T. You should stop by more often. I will convert you.

PS: I chose an emoticon that doesn't really fit but I couldn't see where the ornery eyebrows emoticon was. So, you get this one. If I've learned anything from my parents and their parents before them, it's to settle.

I am of two minds on this. I see the aforementioned snakesmanship of Leonard with regard to Hagler and Duran, and I somewhat take his words at face value in some strategizing with his fights there, but I also accept he took enormous fights and won fair and square in them against legends, and suspect that he plays up his outwitting guys outside the ring because he thinks it makes him look smarter, as opposed to defeating someone less than they should've been.

I think he thinks it does him a favour, relative to a perception that he's a mastermind, but it actually is unfair to him, in putting his wins in accurate context, and, in some ways, a bit overly generous to his opponents, in giving them an excuse they don't even need. Well, no, that Hagler doesn't need and Duran was sorely needing, I guess. Maybe he doesn't fight Hagler if Mugabi didn't happen, but it was still a horrendously risky fight to take for him and if he'd gotten run over and they both retired for good, maybe people would just shrug and be like "Well, sure, yeah. Great, great, fighter, but of course Hagler was a step too far, under his circumstances." instead of "Jeez, he should've won. Look at what Mugabi was doing to him before that. Leonard dropped the ball big time there." I don't think many people would be in the latter camp. I'm sure some, because I never underestimate stupid, but only some.

I'm not done with my first cup of coffee, so it's possible I think this is coherent and when I read it back later it's going to look like a Charlie Brown teacher rant. But I'm going to take that chance. Because I trust you guys to be vulnerable. (sniff)
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Cheers my man. Never disappoint. Nice

don owens · Nov 5, 2022

Marvelous Marvin...the Great Marvelous Marvin....he beat Leonard. don't make them like that any more. RIP Champ.

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