Marvin Hagler - Floyd wins because status of fighters isn't as great as years ago

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  1. I Know Everythi

    I Know Everythi Well-Known Member Full Member

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdsYQYHCkno
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    End of discussion. Hagler has spoken

    Just like Duran - Mayweather would be ordinary in my era

    no debate. Floyd is nothing close to great. Can't deny Hagler and Duran.

    No great fighters since Hopkins/Jones era
     
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  2. CC-Tron

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    Hagler and Duran. They're both has beens and hate it.
     
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  3. Rojo

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    Hopkins and Jones? You mean the guys who were anally raped by Joe Calzaghe?
     
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  4. I Know Everythi

    I Know Everythi Well-Known Member Full Member

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    when they were 40+ and well past their prime

    and as for Hopkins - getting raped in the same fight where Calzaghe Sr prior to rd 12 says "What are you doing?" "It's OVER" "You've gotta stop him" "You've GOT to stop him"

    doesnt sound like Calzaghe Sr is confident that was a legit victory
     
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  5. Imperial1

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    He speaks the truth !
     
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  6. dannyc1990

    dannyc1990 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    they can say what they want tbh... you can say he's not fighting as good fighters as they did but at the end of the day he's beating these lesser guys so without ever pitting himself against the level they claim they fought then theres no way of knowing. The fact he's won every fight tells me he wouldn't be ordinary in any era..

    All those guys were losing to each other... hagler beats hearns but lost to leonard... hearns drew with leonard and was robbed but then also got stopped by leonard. Leonard lost to duran but then beat him. These guys all act asif they won against all these top level guys they fought. You throw floyd in that mix and i'm sure he'd lose to one or two and beat one or two just like they did with each other..

    Hagler lost and drew fights to these so called lesser fighters and floyds never suffered that...
     
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  7. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    He beat ordinary fighters not extra ordinary ones!! That's what happens when you cherry pick!
     
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  8. dannyc1990

    dannyc1990 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Your being silly though and just being a hater for the sake of it. Why is it always floyds fault a fight doesn't happen... he wasn't always in a position to fight whoever he wanted.. & also lets face it, there hasn't been any real, lets say future atg he could of fought. Only manny. Haglers era had lots...
     
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  9. Rojo

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    You just can't stand that Calzaghe came over and exposed Hopkins and Jones - so you make all types of excuses. Did you see the way Jones and Hopkins were running and hiding like little girls towards the ends of those fights?

    THAT'S BECAUSE CALZAGHE IS THE MAN!
     
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  10. Imperial1

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    :lol:

    The guy admitted he hand picks opponents.. Yeah it's hate :patsch
     
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  11. I Know Everythi

    I Know Everythi Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Name me one fighter Floyd has fought that is anywhere close to the quality of Duran, Hagler, Hearns, Leonard, or even Benitez.

    Oh wait you can't. So your comparison is apples to oranges and completely stupid. of course those guys were losing to each other, there's at most maybe 5 boxers in all of history around that weight class that would have gone undefeated against those 4.

    Floyd - clear case can be made he lost to B-level Castillo in the first fight
    I feel Floyd clearly won 7-5, 8-4 against B-level Maidana (Roger Mayweather says - Maidana has not beaten anyone that impressed me), but some feel it could have been a draw

    with 2.5 fights a year and a 18 month layoff no wonder he doesnt suffer losses or draws.

    I guess youre one of those guys who thinks 46-0 actually means something

    Show me a fighter who's undefeated and I'll show you a man who's never fought anybody - Whitey Bimsten
     
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  12. dannyc1990

    dannyc1990 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    But when he was on the rise he can't of done... bob did... no doubt he picks and chooses now.. he picks world champs and guys moan though... realistically given all the circumstances with tr n gbp who would you want him to fight.. 147/154... that makes financial sense and would help his legacy ... there isn't really anyone..
     
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  13. modernfonzie

    modernfonzie Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hearns and SRL think otherwise :think
     
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  14. Imperial1

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    He picks world champs :lol: Yeah your right Maidana was a world champ yet he wasn't the best welter weight in the division .
     
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