Marvin Hagler - Is He Becoming Underrated?

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  1. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    It seems as if no one, or few people at least, give him a chance at beating Monzon, for example.

    I'm not saying the consensus is that he would be dominated, but when a name is brought up to beat King Carlos its usually Hopkin's from what I've seen.

    Is it the fact that, unlike Hopkins and Carlos, he lacks a large frame and the potential to carry more weight?

    Is it the fact that unlike Hopkins and Monzon he "failed" to destroy his smaller opposition? Such as Duran and Leonard?

    Thoughts? Is he becoming even mildly underrated?
     
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  2. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    i dont underrate him i think him and Carlos are about even at numer 1 of the MWs
     
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  3. Unforgiven

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    Marvin Hagler - Is He Becoming Underrated?

    If Bernard Hopkins is being mentioned in the same breath, then the answer is YES.
     
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  4. sugarsean

    sugarsean Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I believe he is the greatest middleweight of all time and Hd 2 Hd best middleweight.
     
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  5. Brit Sillynanny

    Brit Sillynanny Cold Hard Truth Full Member

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    On ESB definitely.

    I've even seen a thread in which some morons picked Calzaghe to win over Marvin. That's f*****g ridiculous.
     
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  6. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    He's one of the most well rounded and complete fighters ever. Many other fighters are as well but Hagler could switch and fight effectively from either stance. He was an excellent boxer with a good defenese, decent speed, and had very good power. He was an extremely durable fighter and had one of the best chins in the history of the sport. But he was hardly one dimensional.
     
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  7. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    no . just like eubanks is not becoming Overrated.

    just check the top 10 middleweight survey.
     
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  8. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Both Hagler and Monzon are overrated look at their skill sets, they are very good but they arent the best of the best by any means at 160 or P4P
     
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  9. MrMarvel

    MrMarvel Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hagler was ready for his title shot in 1977. Had Monzon or Valdez given him a shot he would have broken Monzon record easily. Hagler failed to destroy Duran because Duran was solid at the weight and was a much better boxer than Napoles. Does anybody believe Hagler wouldn't destory Napoles? Hagler failed to destroy Leonard because Hagler was well past his prime and Leonard is slick. Does anybody believe Monzon would destroy Leonard? I don't.

    Yes, I believe people do underrate Hagler.

     
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  10. sugarsean

    sugarsean Boxing Addict Full Member

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    how are they not the best of best @ 160 or Pd 4 Pd, explain

    (I think that is one of the most stupid comments I've heard on here
     
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  11. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    good point:good
     
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  12. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    I give him a great shot against Monzon who I love but feel is slightly overated. I feel Hagler was faster and harder hitting. Even thought Monzon was 3" taller his reach was only one inch longer. I think Hagler is top five no question.
     
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  13. Sonny Carson

    Sonny Carson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree. I don't feel Monzon has the speed to keep Hagler off of him. He does have great reach, but his hand and footspeed were pretty average. That's what you need to beat Hagler and Monzon didn't have it. I would favor Hagler by decision. Hagler Vs Roy Jones would be another story of course.
     
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  14. MrMarvel

    MrMarvel Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He's number one in both categories in my book.
     
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  15. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    hagler is No.1 and monzon No.2.
    who could beat these two
     
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