Marvin Hagler NOT Top 10 All Time @160lbs

It's not even a knock against Hagler to say he does not make the top 10 all-time middleweights.
The division is so deep, you can be an elite ATG fighter (which Hagler certainly is, imo) and still fall short of the top 10.

 

I put WINS on Haglers resume. You just put who he fought. Revise that list and name who he won against.

 

I'm not sure whether you are supporting the points made in my post or arguing against them but, in any event, I agree with a fair bit of what you have conveyed, above. I think a case could be made against all the Greats, where level and consistency of results against their opposition is concerned.

 

There's a pretty neat site called Boxrec.com. Use it and you might be able to work this out for yourself.
Better still, go and actually watch some fights of Hagler's so called poor opposition, including that of his pre-Championship days.

 

How the hell does a guy go through 67 pro fights, not so much as get dropped (Roldan fight was a slip) by fighters like Hearns and Mugabi who were in their absolute prime then gets knocked out 5 times including by the likes of Cerdan? You honestly think BHop beats Hagler???? This is ridiculous!

Only someone with a real vendetta against Hagler would come up with a list like this.

 

cerdan over hagler? that's ****ing stupid.

greaves better than vito? even worse.

go away troll.

 

You're entitled to your opinion but most observers would disagree with you, if only due to the limited case you put forward. Your prior post of speculative outcomes, involving Hagler versus [Insert any other Middleweight in history] indicates you do not really take an evidence-based approach to determining how these 'what if?' contests might turn out. Again, I suspect many, if not most, would dispute these as being the likely results.

I would add that, of the little evidence you do put forward, your interpretation of it is dubious, e.g. in your opinion, Roldan floored Hagler.

 

Most of Cerdan's success came as a welterweight and European opposition .. to say his record at 160 is superior to Hagler's is a reach if you ask me ..

 

I was never wowed by Hagler. I think I'm missing something but I go back and watch him and still feel the same way. Don't like his footwork, switches back between southpaw and orthodox too often, indecisive at at times, the fight with Duran and the loss to Leonard. I don't think I'll ever rate him as highly as this forum does.