Marvin Hagler vs Andre Ward

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  1. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

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    S O G too big
     
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    Size a little unfair
     
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    Ward could never make Hagler's weight class.
     
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    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He was the first to clearly beat Hopkins since Roy Jones. I think that's pretty impressive.
     
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  5. Bokaj

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    I find these match-ups between fighters of different sizes a bit odd. Ward was a LHW as an amateur and would be so in Hagler's time as well. So what weight and what time of the weigh-in are two crucial questions here.

    160 in the same day weigh-in era and it would be a success for Ward just to make it to the ring. And Hagler would be very undersized at 168 in Ward's time.
     
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  6. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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    Do you still feel this way?
     
  7. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Regardless of the size advantage, Hagler beats Ward. The speed, skill, workrate, and even power all favor Marvin.
     
  8. McCallumsJab

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    Yea it's unknown ground tbh, if Hagler had a 168 division he walked into or he tried his hand at LHW, we'd know more.

    The other question is if Ward's tactics work even better against a smaller man?
     
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    Has anything changed which may convince me otherwise ?
     
  10. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Andre Ward was KO’D by a light weight in a fight where the light weight came in at 134 and Ward came in at 175. It was a 2nd round KO stoppage. It happened on a Tuesday. Remember?
     
  11. Reallymakesmethink

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    Huh??
     
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  12. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Hagler would have a considerable reach advantage. As well as a speed advantage. I would have Marvin as a very live and slight underdog.
     
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    Ward and it wouldn’t be close
     
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    It was an underground boxing match that only me and Larry Merchant and Larry Holmes witnessed
     
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  15. Saintpat

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    This is a stay-in-your-lane fight.

    Marvin’s lane was middleweight. He steps on the track against a true world-class SMW or LHW and he gets outclassed, pushed around and ragdolled. Ward and it’s fairly easy.