Marvin Hagler vs Gennady Golovkin At MW

If you look at the footage of those fights...it was more posing than punching....hence the longer fights...the mitts were also less padded which hurt the fists..hence less but more precise, selective punching...SRL would have had a problem with this including most other combo type punchers..

 

Surely you jest?

 

Floyd Has the economical style to pull off a lot more rounds than just 12. Other than that I'm not sure. If you watch those old guys there was lots of parrying and clinching going on, especially in the later rounds when they were dog tired. Negotiating space seems to be the technical term for work inside the clinch. It's basically a lost art nowadays.

 

I love this clip of an old Jimmy Wilde teaching the noble art of self defence.

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GGG's feet have been basically perfect so far in his career, if you can't see that then you simply do not know boxing. He just fought a quick footed WW and beat him to the step damn near every second of the fight

 

Because it means GGG controls where the fight takes place.

 

Not while he's being backed up by rapid and clinically accurate combinations. Not Brook style assaults; Hagler style.
This idea that Golovkin imposes his will on Hagler is, at best, misguided.

 

Anyone willing to trade with Hagler in the trenches always came out second best. Even SRL & Hearns couldnt and they were HOFers. Mugabi also couldnt live with him and he could seriously whack. Still not completely sold on GGG.
The MW version of Tyson knocking over average opponents with the fear factor as an immense positive.
Once Tyson stepped up his level he was exposed and so will GGG. Too many mushrooming bodies though to have consistent high quality bouts in measuring levels of competitors and competition to regenerate new interest in boxing.
With most avoiding losses on their records and monopolising the market iro their purses and protecting their records GGG may never be measured against the best and time is not on his side either.

 

When it comes to feet I have seen enough from GGG to know that he will control distance vs ANYONE at or around MW

 

That is both the sum of it and the shame of it.

The increased breadth and depth of available titles on offer has certainly not helped the sport, even if it is generating more opportunities to make money. But those opportunities, I feel, dilute the quality of contests fielded, with the media/marketing side of boxing having to go into overdrive, in order for it to sell less than interesting bouts.

And, though it has always been in the nature of the boxing/media business to have 'the number one guy' in the sport to focus on, the tendency to over-hype an individual, deserved or not, is more rife than ever, today - especially with such increased media channels, through which to do so.

In the main, I don't blame the Boxers for this state of affairs and, in Golovkin's case, I see a great competitor who is, if nothing else, willing to compete. I just can't see who's out there to draw a truly great performance from him.

I don't doubt he has been avoided by one or two protected fighters and I don't necessarily see a move for him to 168 being the answer. He's stuck, to a great extent but, nonetheless, that's no need for us to buy into what's left for the boxing business to sell us so readily - as I see many do.

 

Your posts are mostly junk. But I will educate you a bit.

When asked in the ring after the bout if he was hurt by Hearns' first right hand, a blow that caused him to step back and then fall into a clinch, Hagler commented, "He definitely tried to put the bomb on me... . He can punch... ."

The translation I wasn't stepping back and clinching for nothing. Hearns broke his hand, but did manage to cut Hagler is memory serves.

 

Bravo!

 

Huge advancements? Golovkin has no inside game and possesses very limited defensive manoeuvres. Those skills were in abundance during Hagler's time. If training is so advanced now , why does GGG not exhibit these techniques?
The bog standard Martin Murray's only success against him came in the clinch. He tied him up pretty well and was able to walk him back. All GG could to was try to pull his arms free. There isn't a boxer in todays MW division who has better tools , better methods and better technique than guys from past era's.
Geale , Macklin, Wade , Munroe etc are all middle of the roaders who would be cleaned out in sparring during the 80's , never mind inside the ring.

Construction was a brutal job during the 70's and thats where Hagler worked since he was 9 years old. Instead of going home after work ,he went to the boxing gym and put conditioning on conditioning. Boxers being un-natural conditioned and hard as nails was a product of the time. Life is too easy these days and the cream puffs who enter the ring are evidence of that.

Hagler once said he found it harder to get out of bed and run at 4am when you sleep in silk bed sheets. That's tells you all you need to know about a Hagler now vs a Hagler back then.

 

Agreed and without sounding corny the addition of Marvelous to his name is synonymous with Knighthood. Has there been another Hagler type of fighter since?

 

Fighters back then understood the importance of quality.