Marvin Hagler vs Gennady Golovkin At MW

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We are talking about Middleweights.

Fighters like Minter, Briscoe, Antuofermo, Monroe, Watts, Mugabi, Hearns, Duran, Hamsho, Sibson, Seales, etc. were all great quality contenders. Yes they weren't atg material but they weren't a weak era. And Hagler dominated them ALL. From all of your posts that I have read they all pretty much call a fighters era weak unless they fought multiple atg's in their prime at their best weight.

 

Hagler had great footwork and balance himself.

 

Easy hagler win for me. He had a 5 inch reach advantage for a start. None of the guys nowadays or at least golovkins fought have decent footwork. Kell the best but he was a welterweight but he caused him some problems. Their trying to walk up to golovkin to box him feet planted. Hagler had lateral movement. Could come in and out from any angle. Golvokins boxing wouldnt fare quite as impressively with an opponent thats not just trying to edge up to him.

Dying game decent footwork in boxing nowadays. One of the most important attributes.

 

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I like Golovkin as a middleweight but I absolutely dislike all of the hype around him. What people don't get is that anyone can look good against B and C level fighters. This guy is supposed to be the top middleweight and a killer yet he fights guys like Dominic Wade. It's bull****. He was offered the Ward fight and he denied it. I don't understand how an ATG worthy fighter who is supposed to be willing to fight anyone and itching for a pay day would deny a fight between a fighter who hasn't fought in a few years and should have been an easy pay day.

People say GGG has great defense which is crap. GGG is an offensive fighter with very little focus on defense. We'll see more of GGG and if he convincingly beats guys like Canelo, Jacobs, Eubank, BJS, and Lara (who aren't even that great of fighters) I will give him credit. Until then he is just a big "what if" who looked bad against a welterweight who had 1 good fight. (It was a draw on all scorecards except one who had Brook up).

 

Do you remember Hagler getting shoe shined by Willy Monroe Jr's uncle? That happened because Hagler didn't understand what he was up against, he was the more capable fighter, he just lacked the training that would have put him in charge that night. GGG would have absolutely handled Willie that night, there is no question.

 

If Hagler had fought SRL, like GGG fought Brook, Hagler would have won the fight and thrown those cards in the trash. You don't box a smaller faster man that can't hurt you, you walk through him and break him. That's experience and training.

 

SRL is 10x the fighter Brook will ever be. SRL had PLENTY of power. Also, Hagler was past prime (a month away from 33). SRL had fought unrecorded fights in order to make sure there was no ring rust for the fight. I don't like these comparisons of Hagler-Hearns/Hagler-SRL to GGG-Brook. They aren't similar fighters, they aren't even in the same league, and the certainly aren't similar fights. GGG looked like crap agaisnt a welterweight with 1 good fight. Hagler knocked out an ATG welterweight in the 3rd round and fought to a SD against an ATG p4p fighter when he was almost 33 and ring worn. Big difference. GGG hasn't fought anybody to be considered ring worn. GGG wouldn't get through Hagler much less Hearns...

 

Do you understand that Hagler fought the wrong fight against SRL?

 

Sure but there's levels of great and GGG is the highest level of footwork

 

This is true.

 

Agreed. Although SRL is way way harder stalk than Brook, Hagler wasn't making it the street fight it should've been.

 

Hindsight is 20/20...

 

If a 21/22 year-old Golovkin had faced Monroe that night, within his first three years as a professional, he would have been beaten easily. He wouldn't have known what he was up against, either.

Golovkin would have been fighting away from home, entering a proud and renowned Middleweight scene; he'd have seen nothing but Monroe's results and have heard nothing but hearsay about him - so Golovkin would be having to adapt on the night, in the ring, much like Hagler had to.

Note how Hagler rematched Monroe twice the following year. Results? WTKO12; WTKO2... Hagler was 23 years old, by then. Golovkin's pro debut was at age 24.

What's more is that, if the mid-70s Monroe were around today and lined up for a challenge to Golovkin, he would be the best opponent Golovkin has faced to date.

So - Yes - There is a question.