Marvin Hagler vs. James Toney

Toney will look great at times, landing beautiful counter-right hands off the ropes. Said right hands would brush off Hagler's bald dome - word has it he hides a boxing glove in there! Despite that, the night would be defined by Marvin's workrate. I imagine he takes a 8-4 decision simply because he keeps the initiative, presses and outlands Toney.

Afterward, Toney fans will say that he was dehydrated and blame his manager Jackie.

 

Marvin's switch hitting messes Toney's counter timing up big, i think that is the main factor in this fight and the original baldie takes a UD.

 

ok, toney was slick. he was clever and had a lot of craft and talent. hagler had all of that too - with bells on. plus even as a champ hagler also had an incredible hunger and a drive to win and was super conditioned as well as one track focused. its hagler for me. every time.

 

Even as a monster Toney fan, I'd have to favour Hagler. If you take the Hagler of the Sibson fight vs the Toney of the 1st McCallum fight, you would have a truly fascinating contest, and one which would be a lot more competitive than most people would think. However, Hagler's greater experience, his ability to switch it up and his rifle jab, I just think he would edge more rounds. Neither man is going to seriously hurt the other, and I don't see a realistic chance of a knockdown for either (unless Toney lets himself get caught off balance), so this is going to be a pure boxing match, and I think Hagler has a slight edge in terms of workrate and variety to his game. Would be a hell of a fight.

 

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Whoa, what a war with both of these men going forward. However, once again Marvin prevails. His blend of aggression, skill and workrate ensures that he outlasts James, whose lights will be put out late in the fight.

 

Hagler fighting in a more aggressive manner would play into Toney's hands and increase his chances of winning. Toney was a master counterpuncher (probably more so after 160, but he was still a good counterpuncher there).

I envision Hagler fighting in a more boxing mode with lateral movement, as Hagler frequently did with much success. Toney's not as effective in this manner.

Hagler competitive but clear decision.

 

I agree with this analysis.

Peak-for-peak I favour Hagler over everyone at 160lbs.

 

Perfectly described. Hagler's work-rate along with his skills and determination doom Toney. There's a myth going around that if you pitch a lot of punches to a defense/counter-puncher type you give them many opportunities to get countered, and thereby slowed down. Realistically, if this man's skilled, durable, and determined you're going to be overwhelmed. That's why my feelings on Pac vs Mayweather lean towards Pac. It's the Marciano-Moore fight philosophy.

 

Marvin hagler is NOT knocking Toney out.

 

Toney has to many lapses of inactivty and Marvin was a work horse with an all around game, he would beat you anyway he chose. Toney would do well in spots though and win his share of rounds. Im taking the Marvelous one here 145-141.

 

15 rounds- a prime Hagler with zero question. 12 rounds- it's Hagler's to lose. He could play it wrong and Toney might narrowly outpoint him. No one is getting stopped.

 

not an easy fight for hagler but toney does not match hagler in his punch out-put hagler by ud