Marvin Hagler vs. Joe Calzaghe

This is exactly why I think Calzaghe should be favoured. A lot of his disadvantages (average punching power) and Hagler's advantages (good punching power, good jab) become mitigated when he has an extra 15-20lb on his opponent. As I said before, if they were the same size I'd probably pick Hagler, but they're not. At the lower weights, it's a serious advantage, especially with a fighter as busy as zaggers.

 

But then again you have to use that weight to you advantage.
joe doe not have power and he can not fight Hagler on the inside

 

Calzaghe had power in the same sense as Floyd at 147. He got every opponent's respect, even when he was older and had hand issues. His counterpart, Ottke, was the guy with no power.

 

Calzaghe was no bigger than Obelmejias.
The OP calls for a catch weight of 164 pounds.
Whether it is same day weigh in or the day before, Hagler's going to be the lighter man in the ring, but it's not an insurmountable barrier.

 

He hit considerably harder when he was younger than his older incarnations. I remember him slapping away at Hopkins and thought to myself "I could probably take some of those and be OK". Then I rewatched him against Eubank and was shocked to see the authority he was hitting with. His hand issues were real.

 

naa eubank was weightdrained 2 divisions at late notice. Thats a massive unnatural loss. Those punches would never have even fazed him if hadnt cut weight so drastically. You could hurt anyone who had to had made such a sudden loss, I am surprised they got him past the medical for the fight.

A typical inaccurate weak joe punch are the ones he accidentally landed on his ref and the ref didnt actually notice.

 

I don't know how the Calzaghe Herol describes managed to win fights at creche' nevermind in a boxing ring.

 

the welsh ref i mentioned earlier.

that and an atg tank. he was a pretty good opponent, dont pretend anyone is saying he isnt - but he had shyt power, someones in denial about that.

 

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haha.

its almost incredulous to beleive that was put up by a fan. or maybe not so hard to believe, only a diehard fan could be blind to how comically poor joe looks in the vid.

 

I doubt it was put up by a Calzaghe fan.
I think it's making a point / taking the p!ss.

Either way, the video doesn't lie. Calzaghe benefitted from some of the worst stoppages in history. Fixes really.

 

shame, because fighting fair and square he'd have beaten all of them except for byron mitchell and uninjured kessler.

obviously prime hopkins and jones woud have knocked his head clean off early too, but that goes without saying. Hell, even 40something hopkins would have koed him if jioe hadnt lowblowed him to survive early on.

 

I think it was put as a joke to poke fun at his unusual, slapping punching technique.

All those quick stoppages, the rapid fire half-inch punches, and closing it out with Kurt Russell slapping a guy.

Calzaghe does have a size advantage, he was weighing in at 168 30 or so hours before fight night and said he had issues cutting down. He'd be fighting in a terrific light-heavyweight era in Hagler's time.

One of the greatest MWs ever against a very good fighter at LHW. I think Hagler would be able to overcome this, as Calzaghe doesn't have the right type of style to really take advantage of the edge in size/frame.

Calzaghe had a great workrate, but he'd be open to Hagler's terrific counterpunching. Despite being shorter, Hagler had very long arms for his height, listed with a 74" wingspan while standing about 5'9. He had one of the greatest jabs in history, and could fight at all ranges. He was very versatile and complete, fighting in different styles and difference stances. Strangely for such a well rounded fighter, his straight left was rather weak and under utilized.

Calzaghe had pretty quick hands and terrific stamina and workrate. He could use the ring and also fight as a swarmer. His unusual style could make him unpredictable, and he could be real clever in throwing arm flurries, then turning over a punch in the midst of the flurry to throw with more power.

Calzaghe is an easy target for a lot of people because of his slapping style, modest resume, and some of his fanboys, but he was a very good fighter.

But very good won't be enough to beat Hagler.

Hagler wins a clear decision.

 

Joe by split decision, and that's without any confidence at all, a prime Hagler would be the best Joe ever fought

 

Calzaghe is the most overrated alphabet titlist in boxing history.

Those who were actually around during his career saw,a very limited robin reid probably beat him....a weight drained rusty and past his best eubank push him....a shot jones jnr drop him....and the hopkins fight was a clear calzaghe defeat imo....hagler smashed calzaghes head back and clinically boxes his head off till a sibson like 6th round capitulation.no other victor.hagler was a far far superior stylist snd puncher