I have no idea where they counted 291 punches landed by Hagler, sorry. Compubox stats are only more or less reliable on quantity of punches thrown, but they are most of the time very inaccurate or plain wrong where landed punches are concerned. Throwing punches in bunches and then not allowing the opponent to hit back much or at all, is what Leonard used in that fight, and it's the style Calzaghe has been showing in most of his fights. Watch more of younger Calzaghe, he had very fast feet, and his handspeed is one of the fastest this division has seen (with the exception of RJJ, and, arguably, Anthony Mundine, Andre Dirrell and Jean Pascal). Suggestion to see Hagler's jab against chopping blocks like Sibson and Hamsho gets me laughing too.
Hagler is my favorite fighter of all time but this a 50/50 fight just for the fact that JC is alot bigger then Hagler.BTW what the **** is it with people picking hagler to stop JC. If hes never been close to being stopped at SWM & LHW how the hell is a MW going to stop him,even a great like Hagler.
Because Hagler had the stamina to punch strong for the duration of a fight - also, Hagler wasn't an easy puncher to defend, because he could throw great combinations, from all angles, from either hand. It's not like Calzaghe has a great defense - it's enough against the mostly weak crop of SMW's he faced in his prime, but nothing comparable to what Hagler could do. It would be easy for Hagler to sneak a banger in and follow it up without Calzaghe being able to defend it - not likely, but very possible.
Well, Senya the stats are there for you to see, sorry about that. Watch Hagler -Leonard again. Leonard actually caught a lot of leather during the fight, comparatively speaking and was stunned on several occasions. I get the impression again you are trying to compare the speed of JC favorably with SRL. That's a forlorn cause I'm afraid. Oh and if Hamsho and Sibson make you laugh what vicitims of the 'great' Kessler's mighty jab exactly could you say were definitely better than these two that I picked out from Hagler's 60+ opponents?
Well, of course Hagler's power doesn't compare with Hearns that's clear. But it's a combination of solid power, sharpness, accuracy, combinations that makes the difference. Many a solid chin fell to Hagler. Also I never made a prediction that Hagler could knock out JC. I believe I said 'stoppage'. Thanks
Well HH it aint always raw power that get fighters out of there, especially the good ones. A distance fight is a real possibility but the way Calz has been shaken up/floored more than once in his career by non devastating punchers I would say that an inside the distance win for Hagler is a reasonable bet and hardly unimaginable. Hopkins showed JC's chin is often up in the air as he comes foward throwing his slaps.
I have to go against the tide here. Most see these as a competetive fight. I do not. Calzaghe makes to many amatuerish mistakes. Marvin Haglar is superior to anyone Joe has ever shared a ring with by far. He would capitalize on Calzaghe's mistakes, and stop him inside 8 rounds.
Great fight to talk about, but hard fight to pick! Calzaghe has convinced me is he hall of fame fighter, but it is a shame he did not have more challenges in his prime. Boxing has added a relatively new 168 pound division and the talent in this division has been average during Calzaghe’s reign. Hagler to me was sometimes a slow starter, and he could be finessesd or out smarted in the ring. Examples: the Duran or Leonard fight. I think Hagler would land less and throw less than Clazaghe, but would land the harder blows. This would make it difficult for the judges to score. I get the sense that Hagler would do a bit better in the later rounds, but Clazaghe would be better in the early to middle rounds. My pick here is Clazaghe via split decision in a fight where wins more rounds, but does less damage. If you score it, I’ll go with Clazaghe. If you ask me who won the fight by doing more damage, I would would Hagler.
I'm pretty sure he's talking about an accumulation of punches, I could see it like that. I mean Hagler (While not a monster puncher) had his fair share of power and a brutalizing workrate that just crippled guys once he decided to get going (or when he got comfortable). Not to mention Calzaghe sometimes gets overcome with bravado and leaves his chin out there to be touched. Honestly I think it'd be a tale of two fights...the opening half of the fight would be Calzaghe using his awkwardness and constant throwing of punches to bedevil Hagler. Eventually I think Marvin would've figured Joe out and used the latter rounds to pull himself out of a hole and either pick up a UD or a very very CLOSE MD.
Hagler got people to trade and he could always take it better than the other guy. Marvin also had a very long reach. Joe would be the bigger man and was a much more solid hitter in his prime... A past it Calzaghe beats a past it Hagler. But if they are both on their game then Hagler has a jab and a defence that is underrated. Over 15 I like Hagler but he could drop a decision like this and come on stronger ina rematch.