Marvin Hagler vs Marcel Cerdan

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  1. Mendoza

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    We can agree on this. What are you thoughts about Hagler's draw to Antuofermo?

    Also, do you think Hagler fought better opposition and punchers n comparison to Monzon?

     
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  2. mcvey

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    When did Hagler do this?
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  3. mcvey

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    Robinson was a monster puncher, Pender called him the greatest puncher that ever lived.He could knock you out whilst going backwards.
    I was ringside when Hagler beat Minter . He didn't floor him whereas Sibson ko'd Minter, Sibson had better one shot power than Hagler and there have been quite a few middles I would add, Benn Jackson,Mcllellan, Lausse,Fernandez,Carter,Lemieux etc.
     
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  4. mcvey

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    He's a very good puncher and very accurate.
     
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  5. mcvey

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    Hagler beat a good quality of opposition but he didn't ko any of them. I rate him top 4 at middle ,possibly top 3!
     
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  6. META5

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    This.

    Really good punch placement and punching mechanics versus brute strength.

    I think Hagler hits you hard and follows up in combos that catch you in vulnerable spots and systematically break you down versus the true one punch that's all she wrote punchers that he is being compared to.

    I have always argued that hardest punchers is purely about perception in many cases i.e. for me, Shavers, Tua, Foreman and Liston arguably hit harder than a Tyson for pure punch, but Tyson's placement, speed of delivery and punching mechanics means that I would favour him to crack an elite chin above the stronger punchers.
     
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  7. mcvey

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    Punchers they are about even
    Hagler has.
    Hearns
    Hart
    Obelx2
    Roldan
    Mugabi
    Sibson
    Geraldo
    Briscoe
    Minter

    Monzon has.
    Mundine
    Valdes x2
    Briscoe x2
    Tonna
    Ali
    Fernandez
    Bouttier x2
    Not enough discrepancy to make a case either way
    Opposition the same level really.
     
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  8. mcvey

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    Good post!
     
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  9. mcvey

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    Yes I do!
     
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  10. Birmingham

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    By a shade, but Robinson was the better puncher, quicker and would always look like the heavier one shot man down to the speed factor. Lights out speed, Hagler never had that
     
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  11. Reinhardt

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    Marvin Hagler will start walkng Marcel down after about 7 or 8 and stop him in the 13th.
     
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  12. JohnThomas1

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    Benn was champ, that's right.
     
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  13. SuzieQ49

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    Hagler has big time power in his right hook

    Hagler is so underrated. People always nitpick and talk about a few of his close battles but forget how dominant he was in 95 percent of his title fights against really good fighters, and he beat a good crop pre title as well
     
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  14. SuzieQ49

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    Hagler beat the bigger punchers for sure

    Eugene Hart had shavers like power

    Hearns is one of the biggest punches of all time

    Mugabi hit like a Mack truck

    Hagler took bigger punches on film than monzon withot wincing...while monzon was floored or badly hurt by big punches
     
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  15. red cobra

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    Hagler batters him like French toast.
     
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