Marvin Hagler vs Marcel Cerdan

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  1. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Oh yeah, Monzon had a china chin, didn't he? Come on Q, you can do better than that.
     
  2. mcvey

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    Top 4 at 160lbs!imo
     
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  3. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Maybe I didn't make myself clear

    I will now

    Monzon had a very good chin. Hagler had an iron chin, one of the best ever. The right hand Brisco landed in Round 9 which sent Monzon into La La Land and the punch which Valdes floored Monzon with would not have felled Hagler...that's how great of a chin hagler had.

    Fair enough?

    For the record, I am a big Monzon fan. I rate him very highly head to head, and I think his opposition gets severely underrated by certain posters here. You should have read what I wrote about how impressed I was with the demolition Monzon did to Napoles in the other thread. You would have liked it
     
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  4. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Yeah 1-4 is a very fair rating
     
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  5. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    To me, Hagler was and remains one of the greatest all-round boxers I ever saw, with no material weaknesses. Of course, there are those, who might refer to his tactics, as being questionable on an occasion or three.

    I think if this is the worst that can be leveled against him, in a 67-fight career; the airiest of criticisms, then it's indicative of Hagler being a true elite, across the ages. He really was just one of the most difficult of men to beat.

    Hagler is not the Greatest Middleweight of All Time, only by virtue of the excellence in the division's history and of the mere handful of extraordinary men, for whom it could be reasonably argued, take a place above him.
     
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  6. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hagler one shotted Obel in the rematch; had Caveman Lee wobbly as a result of a jab, and dropped Hamsho for the first time in his career in only three rounds. He wasn't the type to always finish with a single shot, but he could definitely hurt you with one, and could be absolutely lethal he was as a finisher. I think I'd favor him over a naturally smaller Cerdan, and could definitely stop the Frenchman once he hurt him, regardless of how durable Cerdan was.
     
  7. mcvey

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    He did but he was beating on Obelmijas for 3 rds before he got him,very good puncher but not top tier imo.

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  8. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And, it really was that ability to set the ball rolling, with either of his heavy hands and then rain down on his opponent; with a sustained, hurtful barrage, which often saw him get the job done inside the distance.
     
  9. kjillomene2029

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    What natural Middleweight did Hagler ever fight that was even remotely as good as Cerdan?
     
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