Marvin Hagler vs Roy Jones - catchweight of 164lbs

Curious sweat pea, how do you see a 50/50 matchup with Jones and Hagler? I feel like Jones has most of the sylistic advantages in this fight.

 

Plus Roy seemed to have an injured hand in the Hops fight. He didnt win it one-handed like he claims but he didnt have his usual two handed attack.

I dont see why it has the be at a catchweight, that may actually be an advantage to Roy but then again probably not much if any.

I think Roy takes it, and dare I say he wins a wide decision. But not because he dominates, just he edges most rounds over Hagler and in the wash he ends up taking it 9 to 3 or 10 to 2..something like that. Roy before he hit light heavy was more focused on winning convincingly rather then clowing, which I would hope he wouldnt do against Hagler because frankly it could spell disaster.

Out of 10 fights I say Roy takes it 7 times....Tough fight for him but speed kills, I think he catches Marvin enough to take the points verdict.

 

Hagler definitely. Jones was great, but Hagler was legendary. Only lost close decisions or drew, and they were controversial (Leonard anyone?) Hagler catches Jones hard when RJJ is playing MR. SLICK and is KOed early.

 

I think if Hagler were to go into killer mode (as he'd proven the ability to even prior to his late career decline) and try to press Jones he'd have the advantage in that he'd be able to work his way in and would have a better chance than any other Jones opponent to really hurt Jones. I also think Hagler was a better pure boxer than anyone Jones faced, and his own accuracy would see Jones tagged more often than we'd be used to. It could still go Jones's way if he's able to stay on the bike, but I see it as pretty even odds.

 

Hagler would have to be really aggressive in this fight. He'd need to force the issue like he did against Hearns, imo.

If he stands back and boxes Jones, he gets beaten to the punch all night long and basically outsped. Jones will pot shot him to death.

In fighting aggressively, Hagler will have to place faith in that cement-like chin of his, because Jones was a puncher at the weight and he had the handspeed to catch Marvin coming in.
I have no doubt Hagler will get hit when forcing the issue, but at the same time forcing Jones on the defensive and getting him out of his comfort zone is the only realistic way I can see Hagler winning this fight.

He'd have to back Jones up, cut off the ring and apply sustained pressure. Marvin have to be willing to mix it, even if it means taking two to land one initially.
In a straight up war, I'd pick Hagler to prevail. Despite Jones' speed and power I think Hagler's chin would survive. Can Jones' chin if Hagler starts getting to him? I don't think so.
So for me, Hagler needs to force Jones into a fight. If he can, I pick him via stoppage in 8 or 9 rounds.

If he stands outside and tries to box with Jones, he loses by UD.

 

Fighting off the ropes was Jones' comfort zone since the amateur days.

 

I know, but I don't neccesarily mean forcing Jones against the ropes all the time and allowing him to sit back and put the 'earmuffs' on. He's got to force Jones to fight back and he has to go downstairs when in close.

 

Jones never fought anybody who could cut off the ring like Hagler. Was he ever in a war? How would he perform? We found that Jones chin was suspect at 175. Did he ever get hit like Hagler would hit him at 160/64? Hagler by stoppage over 15. I'll give Jones a close decision over 12.

 

roy jones all the way at any point in his career at any weight

 

Hagler may decide to cut off the ring, and will end up with Jones on the ropes, which is exactly what Roy will want, he feels like a fish in the water on the ropes. Only a fool can think it would give Hagler an advantage if he can keep trapping Jones on the ropes. On the contrary, that way he'll be mostly pounding Jones' gloves and receiving lots of short sharp counters to the head and to the body in return.

 

...So you're saying poor old Hagler is screwed, no matter what. Is that it?

 

Very defensive counter-punchers had the most success (relative that is) vs. Jones. Hagler would have to make Jones come to him, then he may have a small chance. I'm speaking about opponents of more or less same size with Jones, not a heavyweight who can attempt to smash Jones even through the block.

 

I am a huge roy jones fan at 160lb and feel h2h he may be top 3 ever at this weight........but jeez roy jones nuthuggers like senya and powerpuncher are making it extremley hard for me to defend jones and like him with there ridiculous godly worship there spouting

 

Hagler would punish Jones on the ropes. I don't mind being called a fool by someone who considers Thulane Malinga remotely in the same league as Gene Fullmer. Hagler is miles beyond anyone Jones ever fought at that weight, including a pre-prime Hopkins. It's quite telling that he's wanted no part of Hopkins since.