Marvin Hagler vs Roy Jones - catchweight of 164lbs

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  1. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Perhaps that is so, but that perception holds true simply because so few were able to take Jones out of his comfort zone. If Hagler comes out like he did against Hearns, I honestly can't see Roy controlling the action as per his usual way.

    He'd be force into engaging more than he'd like, and this is something we've never really seen before as Jones has always controlled the pace in his fights.
    How does he react? How does he respond? Those are interesting questions, imo.
     
  2. PaddyD1983

    PaddyD1983 Boxing Addict Full Member

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  3. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Watch Jones vs Sosa, who was more powerful than Hagler and had a chin at least as good as Hagler. I don't know many fighters around this weight who could press Jones "harder" than how Sosa did in that fight. Hagler won't be able to land to the head at all, and when he switches to the body, he'll regret doing that very quickly when he gets smashed the same way Hearns did to him, but not by one punch (resulting in hand injury for Hearns), but by a series of punches as hard and even more precise than Hearns'.
     
  4. PowerPuncher

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    1. Many consider Nigel Benn a better version of Fullmer and Malinga outboxed him twice, Malinga outboxed Eubank too. These are 2 locks for the HOF

    2. Yes Jones never wanted any part of Hopkins thats why he offered him 40% of the purse while bohe was P4P no1 and BHOPs had no big fights and would fight for around 100k in his next fight

    He also offered to fight 40-40 and the winner picks up the remainding 20% after he lost and Hopkins had no big fights, Hopkins turned him down

    Yes running to the hills :lol:
     
  5. Dave's Top Ten

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    Yeah, very appropriate to compare Hagler to Sosa. :patsch
    Senya, I like to stay civlized on this board, but dude, you are an idiot.
     
  6. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sure, it's not very appropriate by looking at how outstanding Hagler's defense was when he was putting Leonard to the ropes, how he avoided every punch in Leonard's flurry. Or the way he defended himself by making Hearns break his hand on his face was a case of simply amazing defensive ability. Or, say, the way he defended himself vs Mugabi, Marvin would come out completely clean-faced if his cornermen weren't beating him up between the rounds while the cameraman wasn't watching, Mugabi couldn't land a single punch on Hagler the whole fight.
     
  7. Dave's Top Ten

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    ...and very inappropriate you chose Hagler's final three fights of his career, when he was clearly past his best, and defensive boxing was long behind him. Idiocy confirmed. :hi:
     
  8. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sure, every boxer continues to use the skills he learned during his career to last longer, only Hagler was an exception who forgot how to defend himself after he turned 30 years old.
     
  9. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nope. That would be Roy.
     
  10. Minotauro

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  11. werety

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    How can you possibly say that Jones' chin is at least as good as Hagler's. That's just ridiculous.
     
  12. Dave's Top Ten

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  13. Holmes' Jab

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    Jones Jr UD. Closer than his fight against Hopkins was. I reckon he'd win by a margin of about 3 rounds over 12.
     
  14. Doppleganger

    Doppleganger Southside Slugger Full Member

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    I had to check the date when I read this in case it was April 1st. Are you serious mate? You don't consider Eugene Hart, Thomas Hearns or John Mugabi to be punchers of the same magnitude as RJJ?, not mention other punchers such as Fulgencio Obelmejias, Tony Sibson etc. I find that statement slightly ridiculious and I believe that no-one is knocking out Hagler at any weight near 160lbs.

    I fimrly believe that RJJ wins the fight on points, but it won't be as wide as some are making out and it certainly won't be by stoppage.
     
  15. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Where have you been hiding recently?