Marvin Hagler vs Roy Jones - catchweight of 164lbs

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Have you not seen RJJ's KO wins at MW and 168? How many times do I have to post up his comparable power to Hearns, Julian Jackson, Toney, Eubank and Benn at comparable weights.



RJJ took out common opponents in 1-4 rounds that the above went the distance with.



Jones is the best offensive fighter at 160-168 - Hearns, Hart, J Mugabi aren't in the same league

 

I agree.

 

Sosa jumped at Jones and refused to get off him, something you won't see from tentative ponderous Hagler, even vs Hearns he wasn't as aggressive as Sosa was.
As for the chin, Sosa had considerably worse defensive skills than Hagler and was in wars where his chin was tested much more (quantity-wise) than Hagler's ever been tested (including the Mugabi bout). Hagler would have to go to war with Briscoe or somebody like that to prove his chin to the same degree as Sosa did, but the Marvelous one was conscious enough not to do that, because he knew he'd get stopped if he had gone to war with Briscoe.

 

Yeah I've seen his KO wins and I still disagree with what you say. Which common opponents exactly? RJJ couldn't stop Fermin Chirno yet Nigel Benn destroyed him in 2 rounds. By the same token RJJ stopped Malinga where Benn couldn't.

So what does that prove? Not much but it certainly doesn't suggest that RJJ has power of a different magnitude.

 

I've been around mate, here and there.

 

Senya doesn't even believe himself when he posts, he's just trying to stir up controversy like usual. PowerPuncher is basically his apprentice.

 

I think redrooster and I Am Legend fit in to this bunch of people who basically just try stir up stuff too.

 

Wow! Lots of posters in this thread thinking Jones Jr beats Hagler easy at a catch weight. I'm wondering if these conclusions are based on the results of watching Leonard vs Hagler and using that fight as a platform in justifying RJJ beating Hagler. Hagler wasn't motivated or at his best against Leonard and I'll say that if it was a scheduled 15 round fight that Hagler wanted, he probably knocks Leonard out in the 13th or 14th. There's no questioning the solid performance Leonard showed that night but he got everything he wanted in the contract to fight Hagler

I have to disagree and say Hagler possibly KO's Jones Jr late or perhaps wins a unanimous decision. Jones was fast but one poster mentioned it earlier in this thread that Jones never faced a fighter that could cut off the ring and pressure him like Hagler. Glen Johnson did a very good job cutting off the ring and beating Jones, but Hagler is a much more technically sound fighter than Johnson and he also brings the southpaw factor into this fight.

Anyone who think Jones Jr knocks Hagler out early needs to seriously revisit Hagler's career well before the Leonard and Hearns fights before making that kind of conclusion.

 

I think Hagler wont expect to outbox Jones, like I dont think he expected to outbox Hearns and so he will be all out attack straight away.
If he can take Hearns punches he can take Jones' punches. Can Jones evade an all out attack from someone of the quality of Hagler?
I dont think so - I think Hagler takes this by KO after some rip roaring non stop action..

 

Marvin's shattering Jones' glass