Marvin Hagler vs Roy Jones Jr.

People underestimate how extreme weight loss can damned near ruin a fighter, especially when their bodies are such high performance machines. Usually the loss of a few pounds is drastic.

Look at what it did to Byrd.

 

This is a very interesting point, and one I would tend to agree with, thinking about it. Jones may not be a KO threat to Marvin but the man was a puncher at 160 for sure. Add that to blinding speed and you have a fighter that gets away with a lot of things he would not otherwise get away with. Marv sure as heck would not like to get caught flush by Jones too often.

To be quite honest, I think Hagler would have his hands full here. Jones may not be a popular pick, but I would be very nervous if I was a big Hagler fan and this fight was made.

 

I have a feeling when most peep's use Hagler in H2H matches Vs. speedster's..
they might tend to lean towards his fight with Leonard for answer's.
(Not everyone, but a few)

Jones Jr. can use his speed no doubt, but over the course of 15 RD.s at some point he will have to stand and fight in order to attain his victory.
Do I belive Roy has a Duran type of chin to pull this off? Maybe?
(But not overall, a lightweight taking At the time Middleweight Shots)
Do I think Roy has more pop that Roldan? Yes, I'd defo give him that.
Do I think Roy is a better boxer puncher than is Tommy Hearns? IMO No.
(Plus pound for pound I'd say Tommy was the better power puncher)

Just hard to imagine Roy lasting 15 RD.s (not cause of condition, but accumulation)

 

I really can't add to that.

 

Needs a 3 fight series for sure.

 

"Roy is the one proven against lightheavies here, not Hagler. Marvin also fought stupid gameplans in his career biggest fights (Duran and Leonard). How is he going to deal with RJJ, who is faster than the Leonard he faced, much, much more powerful and dare i say, more durable. "

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The tactics were fine because he was facing a natural lightweight, an aggressive one to boot. He can't afford to make mistakes against Jones.

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The start of the Leonard fight was wrong, but even after that, he never really solved Leonard. I realise that Hagler had lost a few steps at this point, but let's not forget that Leonard was as good as inactive for 3 years and looked horrible against a journeyman during his last fight... not to mention the fact that he was a welterweight.

 

I never said Hagler should brawl with Jones, like he did against Hearns. I agree, it wouldn't work. I was just pointing out the smartness of Hagler's tactics on that occasion.

I'm not so sure that Jones was the harder hitter at Middleweight, not so sure how you conclude that, and we really don't know how his chin would have held up against a stiff combination puncher like Hagler. That one's a bit of an intangible. At Middleweight there are lot of things we never found out about him.

As far as the Leonard fight goes, its irrelevant. The peak Hagler of a fantasy matchup against Jones is a different animal.

I think if Hagler did win, it's most likely a late stoppage in a close fight. A points win for RJJ is a possibility.

 

Jones UD all the way. Unlike Hopkins, Hagler would make this one reasonably competitive, though.