Marvin Hagler vs Sugar Ray Robinson

how many does Robbie actually have? One? He caught Gene on the point of the chin

what happened in the other bouts? Robbie could not catch him perfectly. as a result, he could not beat him

whereas Hags did not have to catch the opponent clean on the point of the chin but rather anywhere on the head,, and Hagler has many more sudden endings to his bouts than Robinson - hamani, Monroe 3, Lee, Obel 2, Hearns, Hamsho 2, Scypion, Colbert, Watts 2

therefore, Hagler has much greater power, especially with the right hook

Robbie's a great fighter, just not quite on the level Hagler is

 

Jake was a punching bag.

The end

 

One of your better trolls, well slightly. Over 3 rounds Hagler hit Hearns with basically dozens of clean shots before it finished, and Hearns chin is just decent, certainly not great. The real shock for me was how ,many solid shots Hearns actually took. IMO it was quite impressive to be honest. Certainly re-affirms Hagler as a good not great puncher, power wise.

As for Scypion, the guy quit

 

do you ever have anything original or entertaining to contribute to this forum?

At all?

I understand that you feel flabbergasted and helpless but if you cant effectively diffuse my argument, you'd be better off staying on the sidelines.

 

wrong on both counts

it was only round three as compared to round five AFTER Robbie connected on Gene with basically dozens of shots, and THEN caught him

as for Scypion quitting, you must have read that somewhere and we know that you, having nor capacity to think on your own, believes WHATEVER he reads

see there? you lose again

You're not a very good sport are you?

 

A punching bag doesn't stay on his feet for 102/106 straight fights.

 

Huh? Most of the fighters you listed aren't even close to as good as Gene, and what's more, most of them don't have as good of a beard. So I'm failing to see why you tried to make such comparisons. Now I'll ask again, name me the fighter as good as Gene, with as good of a beard as Gene, did Marvin KO with one punch?

 

Fullmer? Really? His reign was nothing special so why feign surprise?

This is the first I've heard of the "great" Gene Fullmer, because never have I seen much of him in the mags

One would think that a fighter that special would have had a notable reign. neither did i realize his chin was more than human and that no one other than Robinson could lay him out

It makes me wonder why Robbie didnt lay out more fighters in likewise fashion, especially against fighters who didnt have as good a beard

explain that inconsistency then I'll get back to you

 

//look at this quote I found on youtube

"-this fight was a disgrace--as was Fullmer's entire, protected careeer."

I wonder, wh do people make outlandish claims about fighters like Gene and Lamotta when all one has to do is check the record?

"oh well, you cant judge by what Boxrec says. you have to watch them on video"

but what if they suck on video too, like Gene?

 

No mate i just bang on and on and on with the same old garbage rhetoric about SRL. Now and then i branch off and talk rot about the likes of Terry Norris, but not for too long as SRL is what really puts the lead in my pencil. My life goal is to discredit SRL across various boxing forums.

 

I think Robinson at his MW peak is at bit hard to gauge fully. He looked very good against LaMotta and on paper it is hugely impressive to stop him, but Jake was really struggling to make weight at this time and had trouble with just about anyone he faced. As far as I know, no one else came close to stopping him, though. But he was definitely some way past his best,

Robinson looked sensational against Graziano and during his European tour, but there are questions about the quality of opposition. Graziano might be a big name, but I'm not too impressive by his record nor by he looks on film. A guy that almost always had a puncher's chance, but that's about what he brought to the table against elite level opposition.

But from what we have of Robinson at his best at MW, he does look sensational. Better than anyone Hagler beat, I'd say. Better even than the Leonard Hagler lost to, since I don't think SRL had much in terms of legs left in that fight and was running on fumes during the second half.

 

Gotta go with Marvin. SSR would have his moments and might be ahead when Hagler eventually gets to him late. Marvin carried his power into the later rounds too

 

Hagler could barely catch Marcus Gelardo and that fight convinced Ray he could win. Although he waited long enough to prove it. Robinson was in brutal fights. The toughest you could imagine. Hagler wasn't.
Ray had everything you could ask for to out last , out maneuver and out box Hagler.

 

You really do sink to new depths, go and watch the Mugabi fight and come back to me....

 

What does the brawler Mugabi have to do with it?
Come back with you understand the styles that make fights.