Marvin Hagler (vs the Light Heavy's)

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Il Duce, Mar 18, 2011.


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  1. Il Duce

    Il Duce Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Marvin Hagler versus Marvin Johnson could have been a done fight.

    Marvin Johnson fought both at 156 lbs. and 165 lbs. as an amateur.
    And by his own admission, could have made 165 lbs. in 1979, for
    an over the weight super middleweight fight with Hagler.

    That would have been a brawl.
     
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  2. bck620

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    Roldan hit him cleanly, but I don't think it bothered him. Those uppercuts were flush, but he just kind of... absorbed them.

    I think Haglers chin is maybe the greatest of all time.

    I heard a story that not only was he never down in a pro or ametuer bout, but never down during sparring, and never even badly hurt for god's sake. Never even hurt to the point of having to hold on to avoid being put down. Incredible.
     
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  3. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He did against Hearns and Eugene Hart, though not necessarily to avoid being put down, just to avoid taking further punishment.
     
    TheGreatA, Mar 20, 2011
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  4. Bollox

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    One thing I noticed in the Roldan fight was that Roldan was as strong as an ox in the early rounds and even pushed Hagler around a bit. Despite Hagler's amazing pysique his wasn't the strongest middleweight ever. A lot of the lightheavies would have had a distinct advantage before the fight even began. Hagler simply wasn't made for anything but middle
     
    Bollox, Mar 20, 2011
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  5. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agreed. I wouldn't say that Hagler was stronger than Briscoe, Hamsho or Roldan. Hagler was the ideal middleweight at a chiseled 160 pounds, no more, no less. The likes of Carlos Monzon probably had the frame to carry an additional 10 to 15 pounds, but not Hagler.
     
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  6. Il Duce

    Il Duce Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Marvin clearly a disciplined fighter.
    To maintain a superb physique, and stay in top condition for that length of time.

    He was perfect for Middleweight.
    Though I do agree with some here, Juan Roldan did out-strength Marvin for a
    good part of their fight.

    Which means, Victor Galindez may have out-mauled Marvin.
     
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