Marvin Hagler vs. Virgil Hill

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  1. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hagler vs. a underrated LHW.

    Hagler can come in at any weight he chooses.

    Winner?
     
  2. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Could unfold two different ways. If Hill doesn't press, Hagler would be content to win a 15 round UD. If Hill feels like mixing it up. Hagler would dispose of Hill in about the seventh or eighth.
     
  3. Manassa

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    I think people forget that Hagler stopped all but one of his challengers in successful title defences, and that overall he scored 52 knockouts in 62 victories. If he thought he could stop Hill, he would.
     
  4. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hill beat up and knock out some strong Lightheavies.

    I think Hill surprises Hagler and outpoints him over 12.
     
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  5. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    I think Marvin beats him.

    But Hill gets criminally underrated sometimes. His crazy longevity as a top flight fighter is damn impressive.
     
  6. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hill actually handed Nunn his ass when they were amateurs. :scaredas:
     
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  7. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hill is a bit underrated.
    It's funny, but for the vast majority of his career he was unappreciated, probably because he fought almost exclusively out of North Dakota and against fighters who usually weren't big names.
    But even though he lost to Hearns, he proved there that he had a lot of fight in him and also that he had a pretty good chin.

    Hill had a smooth style and a rapier-like jab. Decent power too when he decided to mix it, which wasn't often.

    I don't think Marvin was a big middleweight, so I can't see him coming in anywhere near the lightheavy limit. If he comes in at 160 or so, I think Hill has enough in his armoury to give Hagler quite a few problems.
    Can he win?
    I'd give Hill a decent chance.
     
  8. Loewe

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    Hill is a very overlooked and underated fighter. Two weight beltholder with a very good longevity. Imo a lock for the HoF. Personally, I don´t think Hagler would have much success against the top lhws. He just isn´t built for moving up in weights. Hill on the other hand isn´t known for using his size advantage and was beaten handily by DM who pressured and outjabbed him. Still Hagler is much smaller than Dariusz. I take Hill to win a clear 12 round decision.
     
  9. Francis75

    Francis75 FAB 4 Full Member

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    If Hill can weigh-in at 175 he would beat Hagler imo.
     
  10. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I don't know that we can really simplify things to that extent. While I would also favor Marvin Hagler to win, we have never seen him fight at 175 lbs, and in fact his average weight during his prime was around 158-159. In addition, most of his signature fights were against men rising in weight.

    Virgil Hill is not in Marvin Hagler's league from a historical sense, but he shouldn't be overlooked in this matchup either. He was a natural light heavyweight his whole career, who possesed great stamina, speed, durability and overall boxing ability. Again I think Hagler would be the favorite if these two had met in their primes, but I wouldn't be surprised if this one went to the score cards and ended up close.
     
  11. Manassa

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    Well I never even picked Hagler to win. I don't know who would win.
     
  12. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  13. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is a fight to truly test Marvin. You would see if Hags greatness has a ceiling. I think Hill wins in 15. Can he suddenly hurt Hag? Believe he outboxes him from distance but will he suddenly hurt him?
     
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  14. NoNeck

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    Hill would have to be favored. Hagler would not only be moving up 15 pounds, and he wasn't a big middle, but he'd also be past his prime.
     
  15. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't believe Hill is underrated. I believe he is vastly overrated. His resume is about longevity, not quality. He never beat a great fighter and moved up several divisions while beating guys that no one would claim to be great. Tommy Hearns decisions him in his prime and in Tommy's next bout he was outboxed by IRAN BARKLEY at lightheavy. Obviously smaller Marvin with his great southpaw jab has a shot here.
     
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