Marvin Hagler would of been 65-1-1

No argument from me.... I can come up with more reasons for,than against.

 

The best MW? I have him 3rd after R. Jones and Monzon

 

62-3-2 (52 kos) still ain't bad, though.

 

It's TREMENDOUS!

 

I agree that he should be 65-1-1 and that he edged Leonard. It was not a bad decision so I do respect the decision when factoring in the all-time rankings. Monzon got out as champ and I know many view that as being the edge.

I personally think Hagler was a better fighter than Monzon but I probably have Monzon as a hair greater on the rankings. I would imagine both are in the top 4. Greb and Robinson arguably being #1 & 2.

 

Are full footages of Marvin's two Philly losses on film? If yes, was he really robbed?

I scored the Leonard fight as a loss, by the way. So he cannot be undefeated in my eyes.

 

I don't think so. The loss to Bobby Watts is the one that's disputed; his loss to Willie Monroe in their first fight is the one that even Hagler acknowledged he lost. He avenged that defeat twice though - and the second fight, which I also don't believe is available on film, was supposed to be a war.

 

Got it; thanks.

 

Hagler’s quote after the first Monroe fight was telling: “I still have a few things left to learn. I have a feeling Willie already knows them.”

 

Stewart to me was always full of **** and his ideas followed an agenda. No way Hagler is the greatest MC ever. What does that make Duran & Leonard???

 

I'm worried you'll be crucified for that statement about Roy.

 

Hagler was absolutely flogged by Monroe so that ones for certain. I have him losing the SRL fight. 65-1-2 or whatever might be feasible for me.

Seales always claimed he won their second biff but he would of course. I've never seen much ado about it being a draw but would be keen to see an at the time article.

His first fight with Jimmy Owens was also a split decision and was close by the looks. How good would it be to have that to score just to round out all bases.

 

I do not think... it will not be long before many will adapt to this truth: nobody beats R.Jones in his prime..neither Monzon, neither Hagler, neither Robinson.

 

Hagler-Seales II has the strangest two scorecards you’ll ever see for the same fight: two judges had it 99-99 — one round each and eight even.