Marvin Johnson vs Joey Maxim primes

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Who wins?

  1. Johnson KO/TKO

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  2. Johnson PTS

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  3. Maxim KO/TKO

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  4. Maxim PTS

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  1. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who wins this matchup?
     
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  2. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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  3. bolo specialist

    bolo specialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Maxim's fight w/ another swarming, hard hitting southpaw in Bob Murphy, & Johnson's fight w/ counterpunching Mustafa, give us the most insight into how this hypo could play out. I'd favor Maxim to smother & counter Johnson inside, w/ a heavy emphasis on body work, en route to a dec.

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  4. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    This is a tricky one. Joey Maxim was only stopped once in 116 fights and that came earlier in his career. He battled through long distance fights with some of the best that ever lived, even if most of the time it was in defeat. He didn’t have much to hurt Marvin Johnson with, but Johnson chin, stamina and defense weren’t the best. I don’t know. Johnson had overall more success becoming a three time light heavyweight champ but maxim could be a huge problem for him
     
  5. FThabxinfan

    FThabxinfan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Maxim had a good durability and knew how to counter infighters, Maxim SD as he don't have enough firepower to keep Johnson at bay all the time.
     
  6. Anubis

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    Excellent. Quicky precap, Maxim's an ATG while Marvin was likely never the world's best LHW.

    For me, the only lingering question is whether or not Maxim stops Marvin before the final bell, and I don't think he bothers to attempt this, having no need to.

    People don't seem to realize that Marvin Johnson was a very dedicated trainee who WAS in the best condition of his life for Easy Eddie and the Jinx. (Marvin and Eddie were actually roommates as amateurs.)

    Now I'm just winding down for sleep.

    That Marvin never lost again after the Jinx played Bob Foster to Johnson's Mike Quarry until his career finale is a testament to his disciplined training regimen, but yeah, his physical peak was right when he had his worst defeats. An extremely noble champion and all around good guy that Indy has rightfully appreciated as a native son, but ultimately limited. (Make no mistake though. If you didn't have a first rate chin, you could be staring at the lights very quickly!)

    Your post touched on something extremely significant here. Marvin was certainly no Ali when it came to absorbing body punishment. Eddie's body work from the outside was ruinous to Marvin, doubling him over, and the Jinx utterly deflated him with a huge right to the body which set up that deadly hookercut. But to his credit, Marvin course corrected when it seemed everybody knew exactly how to beat him, got through those pesky and ubiquitous Davis brothers, and back to a third title. Emembe was his only successful career defense, but it was a credible Championship Rounds performance for his final win, and Pops became among the few to retire at the perfect moment..

    Stamina wise, Marvin could bring it on incessantly when facing an opponent who wasn't that effectively withstanding or absorbing his offense. But put Marvin in there with somebody who stands up under his fire well with the resistance conserved for coming back, then he will definitely gas.

    Joey may have the very best durability and punch resistance of any LHW ever. 30 rounds with JJW including a win? 45 rounds with Moore? He beat Satterfield and Patterson, handing Floyd his first defeat. Charles couldn't take him out.

    Maxim takes the clear UD, probably winning nine to ten rounds. Joey didn't do late round stoppages. If he had the lead, he was content to keep that lead to the final bell.

    I suspect with Robinson, if Ray had been able to continue into rounds 14 and 15, Maxim displayed enough energetic jubilation at the stoppage to be able to pour it on sufficiently enough to end it on his own, as he did to Freddie Mills in London. (And in comfortable temperatures, Joey's not holding back on Robby like that. SRR will get seriously belabored.)