Marvis Frazier vs Old George Foreman

I added this to the previous post just before you replied.

It's not like Foreman wasn't trying to get a title fight earlier. He was calling out Mike Tyson as early as 1988. Tyson just had his own issues to deal with from 1988-1990. He wasn't looking for a fight with Foreman. He was trying to unify, then get his managerial situation sorted in court, went thru a divorce, had mandatories ... then got upset.

But the boxing establishment wasn't interested in a Foreman comeback, not after what happened to Ali, Frazier and Holmes (against Tyson) in theirs.

He was widely dismissed. He fought where he could when he could. And even when he went on a tear for a handful of years and got a #2 rating, people still badmouthed Holyfield for defending against him.

Also, I know you can look better against lesser comp. But just look at the way he throws punches, and the fact that he's 38/39 and fluid in his movement, as opposed to when he was 43/44 and stiff and less accurate ... and everything that went along with his aging.

If the 1988 version of Foreman fought the 1995 Michael Moorer who lost his title to George, 1988 Foreman doesn't lose all those rounds. He probably handles Moorer much easier. Because he was younger (39 as opposed to 45), faster, more accurate and everything else.

 

I’m pretty sure Foreman could’ve been fighting Berbick, Weaver, Bonecrusher, Dokes and those guys if he wanted to force a title shot rather than being gifted one off his name.

 

Gifted one off his name, you mean like Marvis did?

1988 Foreman stops Marvis.

 

Marvis got the shot because Holmes was ducking someone. Can’t remember which guy.

 

Greg Page i don't think WBC would even sanction the Frazier fight because it was considered such a poor fight. And even though i like Holmes i'm not a fan of his title defences between 83-85.